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 #1 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:00 am Post subject: paypal donation question |
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| is 100% safe using paypal to receive a paypment via donation(if i sell for example fgs ) or is there anyway the risk to get chargebacked? |
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| #2 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:22 am Post subject: |
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from what I have seen chargebacks are always possible for virtual goods. ( things that are intellectual property and non tangible goods. )
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| #3 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:31 am Post subject: |
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| Cinemax wrote: | | from what I have seen chargebacks are always possible for virtual goods. ( things that are intellectual property and non tangible goods. ) |
is there any option that i can put that say: "You can't chargeback after you donate" which they must accept before making paypment?
I'm asking all this to avoid to get chargebacked after i sold fgs^^ |
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| Cinemax wrote: | | from what I have seen chargebacks are always possible for virtual goods. ( things that are intellectual property and non tangible goods. ) |
is there any option that i can put that say: "You can't chargeback after you donate" which they must accept before making paypment?
I'm asking all this to avoid to get chargebacked after i sold fgs^^ |
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| #5 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:41 am Post subject: |
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no not possible unless you make a contract with him and fax it to him and he signs it and has it notarized and fax's it back to you stating it's final and no chargeback for this transaction on this date.
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| #6 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:45 am Post subject: |
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| Cinemax wrote: | | no not possible unless you make a contract with him and fax it to him and he signs it and has it notarized and fax's it back to you stating it's final and no chargeback for this transaction on this date. |
a guy told me in selling/trading I can sell them 100% safe as :
"Paypal says the only way to sell anything virtual is to sell as a service.
Sell fg as a service of time to acquire the fg that the customer has already recieved.
Then if they chargeback you might get hosed for 2-3 weeks but still you get your money after the claims are finished up."
do you know how to do this senior moderator? |
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| #7 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:49 am Post subject: |
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| Cinemax wrote: | | no not possible unless you make a contract with him and fax it to him and he signs it and has it notarized and fax's it back to you stating it's final and no chargeback for this transaction on this date. |
What I actually do is send an e-mail and in my disputes I've used screenshots of the email as the agreement etc and its acceptable only because it is a non-tangible good.
PayPal offers no protection for the seller, nor the buyer for virtual goods as its a hard territory for them to make an accurate decision in most cases. The only way they can do a chargeback (and be successful) is if the account was legitimately accessed by someone other then the owner.
Agreement / questions I ask when selling FG:
This is Myoga-@d3jsp
Please reply with the answers to these questions:
- What is your account name at d3jsp.org
- What is your account name at d2jsp.org
- How much FG you are purchasing
- How much money you are spending
- You realize you are signing a written agreement between us and that you acknowledge the terms of our agreement
You are agreeing that you are purchasing forum gold from d2jsp.org. You are also acknowledging that I can not be held responsible in the event that may render you unaccessible to the FG purchased in the event of an account banning, confiscation, or any other event that removes your access from the FG. There are no returns accepted on this item seeing as it is virtual.
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| #8 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:54 am Post subject: |
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| Myoga- wrote: | | Cinemax wrote: | | no not possible unless you make a contract with him and fax it to him and he signs it and has it notarized and fax's it back to you stating it's final and no chargeback for this transaction on this date. |
What I actually do is send an e-mail and in my disputes I've used screenshots of the email as the agreement etc and its acceptable only because it is a non-tangible good.
PayPal offers no protection for the seller, nor the buyer for virtual goods as its a hard territory for them to make an accurate decision in most cases. The only way they can do a chargeback (and be successful) is if the account was legitimately accessed by someone other then the owner.
Agreement / questions I ask when selling FG:
This is Myoga-@d3jsp
Please reply with the answers to these questions:
- What is your account name at d3jsp.org
- What is your account name at d2jsp,org
- How much FG you are purchasing
- How much money you are spending
- You realize you are signing a written agreement between us and that you acknowledge the terms of our agreement
You are agreeing that you are purchasing forum gold from d2jsp,org. You are also acknowledging that I can not be held responsible in the event that may render you unaccessible to the FG purchased in the event of an account banning, confiscation, or any other event that removes your access from the FG. There are no returns accepted on this item seeing as it is virtual. |
uhm.. do you send this to the email registered @paypal?
can you show me also an example of answer you receive  ? |
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| #9 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 08:57 am Post subject: |
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| Devil~ wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Cinemax wrote: | | no not possible unless you make a contract with him and fax it to him and he signs it and has it notarized and fax's it back to you stating it's final and no chargeback for this transaction on this date. |
What I actually do is send an e-mail and in my disputes I've used screenshots of the email as the agreement etc and its acceptable only because it is a non-tangible good.
PayPal offers no protection for the seller, nor the buyer for virtual goods as its a hard territory for them to make an accurate decision in most cases. The only way they can do a chargeback (and be successful) is if the account was legitimately accessed by someone other then the owner.
Agreement / questions I ask when selling FG:
This is Myoga-@d3jsp
Please reply with the answers to these questions:
- What is your account name at d3jsp.org
- What is your account name at d2jsp,org
- How much FG you are purchasing
- How much money you are spending
- You realize you are signing a written agreement between us and that you acknowledge the terms of our agreement
You are agreeing that you are purchasing forum gold from d2jsp,org. You are also acknowledging that I can not be held responsible in the event that may render you unaccessible to the FG purchased in the event of an account banning, confiscation, or any other event that removes your access from the FG. There are no returns accepted on this item seeing as it is virtual. |
uhm.. do you send this to the email registered @paypal?
can you show me also an example of answer you receive ? |
Yeah, I ask for their PayPal e-mail address before giving out any of my info, then send them that e-mail.
Example:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Rachel Bolton <jerzibebe> wrote:
This is Initial1337@d3jsp
1. Initial1337 @d3jsp
2. Peacekeepers @jsp
3. 3k fg
4. 45$
5. yesh i agree to term.
--- On Thu, 9/16/10, xxxxx xxxxx <xxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: xxxxx xxxxx <xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FG Purchase
To: jerzibebe@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 9:06 PM
This is Myoga-@d3jsp
Please reply with the answers to these questions:
What is your account name at d3jsp.org
What is your account name at d2jsp.org
How much FG you are purchasing
How much money you are spending
You realize you are signing a written agreement between us and that you acknowledge the terms of our agreement
You are agreeing that you are purchasing forum gold from d2jsp.org. You are also acknowledging that I can not be held responsible in the event that may render you unaccessible to the FG purchased in the event of an account banning, confiscation, or any other event that removes your access from the FG. There are no returns accepted on this item seeing as it is virtual.
It's a reply so the bottom is also included, great for screenshots.
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| #10 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 09:01 am Post subject: |
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so you ask for normal paypment not for donation uhm.. Ok so i send the email to email registered at paypal with that requirements.. they answer me and i receive the paypment.. if they try to chargeback I use that screenshots... have you been ever chargebacked and did you win using that screenshots ?
i didn't get only if these are pms or emails!
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| #11 Posted: 09 Oct 2010 09:08 am Post subject: |
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| Devil~ wrote: | so you ask for normal paypment not for donation uhm.. Ok so i send the email to email registered at paypal with that requirements.. they answer me and i receive the paypment.. if they try to chargeback I use that screenshots... have you been ever chargebacked and did you won using that screenshots ?
i didn't get only if these are pms or emails! |
I've lost 2 disputes, and won 2 one truly was a hacked account and I know that for a fact but not positive about the other.
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| #12 Posted: 11 Oct 2010 06:09 am Post subject: |
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Bypass paypal if at all possible unless you know the person you are selling to very well.
Heres the safest option imo:
Purchase a pre-paid debit card such as GreenDot. The card costs $5.00
Have the buyer purchase a MoneyPak Card which is used to "load" the GreenDot Card. All the buyer has to do is goto their local CVS or Walgreens Etc and purchase the card for another $5.00 thenpay the store clerk the amount they want to load onto it. Then the buyer gives you the pin number and you goto the GreenDot website and xfer the funds online. 100% Secure.
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| Jessmop wrote: | Bypass paypal if at all possible unless you know the person you are selling to very well.
Heres the safest option imo:
Purchase a pre-paid debit card such as GreenDot. The card costs $5.00
Have the buyer purchase a MoneyPak Card which is used to "load" the GreenDot Card. All the buyer has to do is goto their local CVS or Walgreens Etc and purchase the card for another $5.00 thenpay the store clerk the amount they want to load onto it. Then the buyer gives you the pin number and you goto the GreenDot website and xfer the funds online. 100% Secure. |
But Jesse trusts me.
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| #14 Posted: 11 Oct 2010 06:53 am Post subject: |
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| Jessmop wrote: | Bypass paypal if at all possible unless you know the person you are selling to very well.
Heres the safest option imo:
Purchase a pre-paid debit card such as GreenDot. The card costs $5.00
Have the buyer purchase a MoneyPak Card which is used to "load" the GreenDot Card. All the buyer has to do is goto their local CVS or Walgreens Etc and purchase the card for another $5.00 thenpay the store clerk the amount they want to load onto it. Then the buyer gives you the pin number and you goto the GreenDot website and xfer the funds online. 100% Secure. |
100% Grade A virgin right here.. listen to this guy. |
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| Juelz wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | Bypass paypal if at all possible unless you know the person you are selling to very well.
Heres the safest option imo:
Purchase a pre-paid debit card such as GreenDot. The card costs $5.00
Have the buyer purchase a MoneyPak Card which is used to "load" the GreenDot Card. All the buyer has to do is goto their local CVS or Walgreens Etc and purchase the card for another $5.00 thenpay the store clerk the amount they want to load onto it. Then the buyer gives you the pin number and you goto the GreenDot website and xfer the funds online. 100% Secure. |
100% Grade A virgin right here.. listen to this guy. |
LOL He mentioned Jessmop and virgin in the same sentence ! No fucking way !
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