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 #1 Posted: 01 Oct 2009 09:50 pm Post subject: The Truth |
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Ok, Through assorted research and documentaries and biased documentaries, i have come to the conclusion that marijuana should no longer be illegal, and that there is no basis behind any of the information the government has given you.
Lets start with the myths:
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Marijuana causes:
1: brain damage
2: Cancer
Marijuana is a gateway drug.
Marijuana comes mainly from mexico and canada.
Marijuana is addictive
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Lets Talk about these myths.
brain damage: This is a complete and total lie, the original research behind this was to give a test group of primates 30 100% columbian grade joints a day for a year. after 9 weeks the primates began to atrophy and die.......marijuana causes brain damage
TRUTH ABOUT MARIJUANA BRAIN DAMAGE:
The same study was not actually carried out as it was said. The researchers used a gas mask apparatus to introduce the marijuana to the primates. The dosage was not 30 joints, it was 60 joint in 5 minutes with no oxygen being added to the mixture. Any Single Animal in this world will die if they smoke 60 of anything in 5 minutes because it creates an oxygen deficiency, and when your brain does not receive as much oxygen as required, it begins to atrophy and lose brain cells untill brain damage and death occurs.
Cancer: Because marijuana is most comonly taken oral through heating and inhaling plant matter. it must cause cancer just as tobacco does right?
TRUTH ABOUT MARIJUANA CANCER:
Several studies have been completed since then, and it is found that marijuana has no radioactive elements, it contains less if any carcinogens than tobacco. Scientists have decided that smoking marijuana will not cause cancer if marijuana is used alone, Yet, since it is the inhalation of plant material it still is not safe. This is why most medical marijuana patients are told to buy either a vaporizer, food thc, or thc in a pill form. The vaporizer does not burn the plant matter, it only extracts the thc and various non harmful chemicals that carboxylate at a temperature at or below 350 degrees F.
MARIJUANA GATE WAY EFFECT"
There is no medical evidence to prove this. The only reason marijuana is a gateway drug is its legality, The fact that it is illegal forces people who use it to deal with "drug dealers" These people are mostly in it for the profit, so they do not care about your safety. A drug dealer's goal is to get you to use his harder drugs that are actually addictive. So while you visit said person to purchase marijuana you are being exposed and pressured to try harder stuff. (drug dealers want repeat customers)
Marijuana Comes Mainly As an Import:
45% of all marijuana in the united states is grown in the united states.
5% comes from canada
40% comes from mexico
MARIJUANA CREATES ADDICTION:
FALSE, marijuana has neither physical or mental addictive properties. The only thing it can even be considered is habitual, and its just like anything in the world. you form habits. For example, You brush your teeth every day when you wake up, you miss a day. You dont get the shakes, you dont have any physical side effects besides maybe bad breath. This is the same concept, brushing your teeth is habitual, eating is habitual, going to work is habitual.
Would you like to learn more? Well i will link you to a mixture of biased and unbiased documentaries.
DOCUMENTARIES
The Union: The Business Behind Getting High
This documentary Is biased more on the legalization front. but the first 20 minutes is packed full of information.
National Geographic: Marijuana Nation
This is a very unbiased and nicely put together documentary.
Marc Emery Vs United States (prince of pot)
This one is less on marijuana information and more on the injustice of the american system to the rest of the world. Just remember your constitution.
This is just a little eye opener, i want to show that while it is a drug(mind you not a hard one) and should be used with care. There should be regulations on it. Such as noone under 18 can buy it, you cannot drive while using it. Things like this. because at this very moment in this country. A person can be carrying less than a gram ( not really enough to even get high) and they can get 6 months probation, jail time, fines, and its on their record. Why are we ruining innocent peoples lives? If we were to go after anyone why not focus more on the dangerous addictive drugs that do cause people to commit crimes? Why are we fighting something that can grow anywhere in the world (besides arctic places). Can be used to make paper, biofuel, clothing, dynamite, cellophane, medicine(mild pain relievers and apetite increase through concentration and monitoring). Even if marijuana is not legalized why is industrial hemp illegal to grow in america? it cannot get you high
After reading this and maybe doing a bit of research yourself i want to know your opinion. Should it be legal or not?
And finallly, Remember if it is legal, you dont have to partake in it.
EDIT: took out links
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| #2 Posted: 02 Oct 2009 08:10 am Post subject: |
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hehe but they won't stay out of it prob
i agree that if it only affects you and no one else such as that it should be left at that ignored
but they have to spend more time going after drug users that only really if hurting anyone its themselves instead of people that shoplift that are stealing and hurting others. |
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| #3 Posted: 02 Oct 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| Happyguy44 wrote: | hehe but they won't stay out of it prob
i agree that if it only affects you and no one else such as that it should be left at that ignored
but they have to spend more time going after drug users that only really if hurting anyone its themselves instead of people that shoplift that are stealing and hurting others. |
err.. i'd like to order a translation of this post, anyone capable of translating gibberish into english? or danish, for that matter. np.
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| #4 Posted: 02 Oct 2009 02:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Happyguy44 wrote: | hehe but they won't stay out of it prob
i agree that if it only affects you and no one else such as that it should be left at that ignored
but they have to spend more time going after drug users that only really if hurting anyone its themselves instead of people that shoplift that are stealing and hurting others. |
maybe i just misread but let me add on to the shoplifting part....
| http://www.therestlesssleep.com/?p=28 wrote: | When my book went to press there were 8,894 unsolved murders in New York since 1985.
Los Angeles, the next largest city in America, had 8,000 going back to 1960.
Fairfax, VA, had 75 going back to 1964. |
| http://ronmull.tripod.com/marijuana.html wrote: | | There were more than 700,000 marijuana arrest in the United States in 1997. (1) This was the largest number in U.S. history. Of these arrests, 87% were for possession rather than sale or manufacture. The percentage of possession arrests has been at least 80% for more than a decade, and it has been rising throughout the 1990s. (2) The total number of annual marijuana arrests, having dipped in the 1980s, has been rising sharply since 1992. |
Can anyone explain why we have so many unsolved murders yet in 1997 alone, 700,000 people were arrested for marijuana. Why can we not find these murders but we can ruin 700,000 peoples lives for an unprocessed, unconcentrated, non lethal, medicinal plant.
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| #5 Posted: 02 Oct 2009 03:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry didn't read the whole thing, but I think a part of it comes down to regulation. Also GL winning an election when pro-legalization is part of your agenda, people just aren't ready for it. |
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| #6 Posted: 02 Oct 2009 04:11 pm Post subject: |
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Cool.
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| #7 Posted: 02 Oct 2009 04:11 pm Post subject: |
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Cool.
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| #10 Posted: 03 Oct 2009 09:12 pm Post subject: |
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| #11 Posted: 05 Oct 2009 03:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Celphtitled wrote: | | Sorry didn't read the whole thing, but I think a part of it comes down to regulation. Also GL winning an election when pro-legalization is part of your agenda, people just aren't ready for it. |
not trying to call you out on this or anything but... what your basically saying is because people arent ready for it, 700k+ people must suffer? not to mention the millions and millions they pump into marijuana laws and regulation. why do we go after the LEAST harmful drug of them all the hardest?
all i am trying to do is open eyes, i never plan on running for any politics or anything(not my style lol). but we are currently at around 45% of america either does marijuana or is ok with it being decriminalized/legalized. 6% more of the american population and they cant do anything. I dont care if you partake in it, or if you ever partake in it. just look at the facts and not the propaganda |
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| abc123 wrote: | | Celphtitled wrote: | | Sorry didn't read the whole thing, but I think a part of it comes down to regulation. Also GL winning an election when pro-legalization is part of your agenda, people just aren't ready for it. |
not trying to call you out on this or anything but... what your basically saying is because people arent ready for it, 700k+ people must suffer? not to mention the millions and millions they pump into marijuana laws and regulation. why do we go after the LEAST harmful drug of them all the hardest?
all i am trying to do is open eyes, i never plan on running for any politics or anything(not my style lol). but we are currently at around 45% of america either does marijuana or is ok with it being decriminalized/legalized. 6% more of the american population and they cant do anything. I dont care if you partake in it, or if you ever partake in it. just look at the facts and not the propaganda |
I think you misinterpreted my position on the subject. I am pro-legalization. When I said people aren't ready for it, I'm generalizing about all the soccer moms convinced weed is going to kill their children, or the geriatrics who have voted conservative their entire lives (I'm conservative fyi).
I still don't think a politician would be taken seriously if he was pro-weed. The last person who believed in legalizing was Mike Gravel.
I think your 45% is a bloated speculation at best..if that many people truly believed in legalizing Mike Gravel would have been present at many more debates before the election. Possibly because of a few things.
The media stopped inviting Mike to talk shows/radio/news stations mainly because of his position on subjects/ he wasn't popular at all. (Think Obama hype / Clinton hype) |
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| Celphtitled wrote: | | abc123 wrote: | | Celphtitled wrote: | | Sorry didn't read the whole thing, but I think a part of it comes down to regulation. Also GL winning an election when pro-legalization is part of your agenda, people just aren't ready for it. |
not trying to call you out on this or anything but... what your basically saying is because people arent ready for it, 700k+ people must suffer? not to mention the millions and millions they pump into marijuana laws and regulation. why do we go after the LEAST harmful drug of them all the hardest?
all i am trying to do is open eyes, i never plan on running for any politics or anything(not my style lol). but we are currently at around 45% of america either does marijuana or is ok with it being decriminalized/legalized. 6% more of the american population and they cant do anything. I dont care if you partake in it, or if you ever partake in it. just look at the facts and not the propaganda |
I think you misinterpreted my position on the subject. I am pro-legalization. When I said people aren't ready for it, I'm generalizing about all the soccer moms convinced weed is going to kill their children, or the geriatrics who have voted conservative their entire lives (I'm conservative fyi).
I still don't think a politician would be taken seriously if he was pro-weed. The last person who believed in legalizing was Mike Gravel.
I think your 45% is a bloated speculation at best..if that many people truly believed in legalizing Mike Gravel would have been present at many more debates before the election. Possibly because of a few things.
The media stopped inviting Mike to talk shows/radio/news stations mainly because of his position on subjects/ he wasn't popular at all. (Think Obama hype / Clinton hype) |
o i agree, a politician will not be able to make president with a pro legalization platform.. This has to be more of a proposition style (each community votes on it and if it passes in enough then congress would then have to change the laws) but the 45% i heard from a legalization front so it could be bloated or biased. but its the only figure on that kind of statistic i know of... probably shouldnt have used it since i cannot back up its claim with facts.. so scratch that lol |
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| #14 Posted: 05 Oct 2009 07:36 pm Post subject: |
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it shoudl be do it if ya want
if you flip out and do something your held accountaible for your actions |
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| #15 Posted: 06 Oct 2009 03:46 am Post subject: |
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wow... very nice!!!
but seriously? personally... i find this really stupid...
if i were the president, i would ban all of these dumb drugs... INCLIDING cigarets!!! and wine type things...
but thats just me...  and i doubt anyone will be with me... oh well... lol
but ya... nice research and stuff dude!
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| #16 Posted: 06 Oct 2009 09:05 am Post subject: |
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just cause its not considerd smart thing to do by most people
let them do it idiots will always find a way to kill themselves anyways so just let them do it sooner rather then later |
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| Happyguy44 wrote: | just cause its not considerd smart thing to do by most people
let them do it idiots will always find a way to kill themselves anyways so just let them do it sooner rather then later |
lol
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| #18 Posted: 06 Oct 2009 07:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Happyguy44 wrote: | just cause its not considerd smart thing to do by most people
let them do it idiots will always find a way to kill themselves anyways so just let them do it sooner rather then later |
Yes lets take a natural medicine (not as its used not, but for real issues like anorexia, minor pain relief, cancer, apetite stimulation, etc) get rid of it.. and replace it with highly dangerous experimental artifical industrial bacteria and diseases they put into us to make us supposedly immune to the disease.... yes i prefer that..
i can see what you and school are saying... if you dont do it others shouldnt either... and while that is a rather blatant and non politically correct way of saying it.... its true... thats what your saying. what happened to freedom, personal choice. you know, the important things. Why has it become acceptable to fight wars without reason? why is it acceptable to run a business into the ground, get a bonus/bailout and spend it all on yourself and continue running a business into the ground. Why can our soldiers torture individuals and only be punished because of media spotlight of incidences. How about instead of using drugs as a scape goat we tackle our problems?
Let me put it in this perspective:(using facts stated above)
700,000+ people are held in prison for marijuana possession/paraphenalia crimes.
osama bin laden is still out there
We have 10,891 (2006) DEA agents
we sent 11,000 american soldiers into afghanistan to fight terrorism post 9/11... kinda strange we have almost the same amount of people fighting drugs as there are fighting/finding THE TERRORIST THAT ACTUALLY ATTACKED AMERICA...
Yes i realize i just used alot of 9/11 and bush facts... but i thought maybe this would put it into a better perspective.
i have not personally examined these facts so this could be just another legalize false information webpage but... here it is because it illustrates the facts in a nice manner
http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm
Again the above website is unreferenced by myself so i cannot guarantee the facts are accurate and not biased or twisted.
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| Happyguy44 wrote: | I Nick agree to the previous statement, marijuana should be legalized. I love smoking weed and playing D2 and every other game I play etc...  Vote Fletch for president |
Translated. Thanks.
8fg please
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| #20 Posted: 06 Oct 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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fletch president = one woody president
i don't smoke weed
i don't play d2 anymore
why are you a fletch? |
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