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Ok, so what i was thinking is... and i got the idea from here..
http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=50590
but,
What if there was a d3jsp account on bnet (inconspicuously named). this account was in each of the realms. The information for it would be kept the same for all realms. And on this account there would be naming conventions such ass
####_Armor
####_Weapons
####_Jewelry
####_Helms
####_Boots
####_Belts
####_Runewords
####_Runes
Each mod that volunteers would then be either assigned or choose a mule. They will then stock the mules with a specific number of each specific item. These items will be boughten with a cumulative fund, the stores money. All items sold to the store will be bought for 1/3 - 1/5 the going rate. This will offer the members a quick way to unload some items and make some fg.
Once there are items on the mule, the mod can then update that specific item in the store.
The store prices can be either fixed or be 2x the buying price or 3x the buying price
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(buying price= (1/3 or 1/5 market price)
Therefore if the market price of a shako is 15fg, the store would buy it for 5 and sell it for 10-15.
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This allows the player to profit off of their diablo items and yet the store can make a profit as well in order to buy more items. Eventually when the store has enough fg, the rest can simply be deleted. boom no more.
The way the store works can be multiple ways. Either tramway trusts the mods enough to have access to some form of fg storage through the store, or the mods pay out of pocket and call it a "business transaction" and write a receipt after a certain amount of fg has been used and reclaim it from tramway.
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Mods have volunteered, they know their specific mule, they know the information for the entire bnet system (the account on every realm). The mule is also full.
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A user comes along and buys a shako. the store sends a pm to "mod", the mod then log onto the account under the specific core, grabs the item and throws it in a game. Sends a pm to the user to pick up the item @ "--------#/## ". The user enters, picks up the item and leaves the game. the mod logs off the account. |
The mod then locates another one of that item.
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the initial investment for the store can either be through donations of items or fg. or tram could give it an initial allowance.
This is merely an idea, these are by no means rules or anything.
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| #2 Posted: 08 Nov 2010 02:36 am Post subject: Re: Need Mod Input |
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| the_pillo wrote: | Ok, so what i was thinking is... and i got the idea from here..
http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=50590
but,
What if there was a d3jsp account on bnet (inconspicuously named). this account was in each of the realms. The information for it would be kept the same for all realms. And on this account there would be naming conventions such ass
####_Armor
####_Weapons
####_Jewelry
####_Helms
####_Boots
####_Belts
####_Runewords
####_Runes
Each mod that volunteers would then be either assigned or choose a mule. They will then stock the mules with a specific number of each specific item. These items will be boughten with a cumulative fund, the stores money. All items sold to the store will be bought for 1/3 - 1/5 the going rate. This will offer the members a quick way to unload some items and make some fg.
Once there are items on the mule, the mod can then update that specific item in the store.
The store prices can be either fixed or be 2x the buying price or 3x the buying price
| Code: |
(buying price= (1/3 or 1/5 market price)
Therefore if the market price of a shako is 15fg, the store would buy it for 5 and sell it for 10-15.
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This allows the player to profit off of their diablo items and yet the store can make a profit as well in order to buy more items. Eventually when the store has enough fg, the rest can simply be deleted. boom no more.
The way the store works can be multiple ways. Either tramway trusts the mods enough to have access to some form of fg storage through the store, or the mods pay out of pocket and call it a "business transaction" and write a receipt after a certain amount of fg has been used and reclaim it from tramway.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Distribution~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Mods have volunteered, they know their specific mule, they know the information for the entire bnet system (the account on every realm). The mule is also full.
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A user comes along and buys a shako. the store sends a pm to "mod", the mod then log onto the account under the specific core, grabs the item and throws it in a game. Sends a pm to the user to pick up the item @ "--------#/## ". The user enters, picks up the item and leaves the game. the mod logs off the account. |
The mod then locates another one of that item.
EDIT:
the initial investment for the store can either be through donations of items or fg. or tram could give it an initial allowance.
This is merely an idea, these are by no means rules or anything. |
decent idea
i can see potential |
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You would need a bot that can accept the items 24/7 and know what it is picking up. For example, a low stat BotD will sell for a lot less then a near perf BotD so it will need to be able to make price judgments based on stats.
Also, the mule that picks up the item will need to message another bot (since as far as I know bots like D2NT can't interact with the web) so you'll need a quick script that will work for MirageBot (I can do that no problem rofl, including the PHP part), that will interact with a PHP script that adds / removes items.
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Mule picks up item in game, sends whisper to _AccountInChannel_ (*rec / *nr) (*item, (*stat1, *stat2, *stat3)) etc. (Maybe even skin / gfx  )
Then the _AccountInChannel_ loads up a webpage like so: http://www.d3jsp.org/items.php?action=(rec/sold)&item=$item&stat1=$stat1&stat2=$stat2 etc etc.
Which then the PHP script would update the shop.
I really like this idea, although it would take a few dedicated programmers to get it up and running (one person could potentially do it but the more the merrier ^^).
I'm all for the idea.
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| Myoga- wrote: | You would need a bot that can accept the items 24/7 and know what it is picking up. For example, a low stat BotD will sell for a lot less then a near perf BotD so it will need to be able to make price judgments based on stats.
Also, the mule that picks up the item will need to message another bot (since as far as I know bots like D2NT can't interact with the web) so you'll need a quick script that will work for MirageBot (I can do that no problem rofl, including the PHP part), that will interact with a PHP script that adds / removes items.
Ex.
Mule picks up item in game, sends whisper to _AccountInChannel_ (*rec / *nr) (*item, (*stat1, *stat2, *stat3)) etc. (Maybe even skin / gfx )
Then the _AccountInChannel_ loads up a webpage like so: http://www.d3jsp.org/items.php?action=(rec/sold)&item=$item&stat1=$stat1&stat2=$stat2 etc etc.
Which then the PHP script would update the shop.
I really like this idea, although it would take a few dedicated programmers to get it up and running (one person could potentially do it but the more the merrier ^^).
I'm all for the idea. |
hmm i hadnt even considered a bot to run it lol. that is a smart idea mi amigo.
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| #5 Posted: 08 Nov 2010 02:20 pm Post subject: |
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What the fuck! Idea stealer there!
Nah, JK. I got 2 x bots running almost 24/7 and I almost have a full character up at Europe Ladder Softcore. I will save some forumgold and start up some bots on East and West ladder aswell, since over 70% of the d3jsp users originally are americans 
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| n00b^ wrote: | What the fuck! Idea stealer there!
Nah, JK. I got 2 x bots running almost 24/7 and I almost have a full character up at Europe Ladder Softcore. I will save some forumgold and start up some bots on East and West ladder aswell, since over 70% of the d3jsp users originally are americans
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i gave you credit  .
but ya, i think this would be an interesting thing to implement. A good way to stimulate the diablo 2 market on jsp and a good way to attract more members. If they can come to a site and buy something without dealing with the bidding and spam and afk and such then its a better system.
As always i play devils advocate as well so here is my antithesis
The root evil with this plan is the fact that in essence it deteriorates the already flailing diablo trading here. Why would people buy items from another person when they can just as easily buy it through the store. What happens if a moderator decides to go rogue and steal all the stuff? what happens if the account is hacked?
The answers to my anti thesis:
Specialty items (rares, and specific stats) will still be traded, only uniques and runewords will be held by the store. And even then there will not be a large stock, im thinking 1-2 per item.
If a moderator goes rogue and steals stuff.. they are banned, and whoopdy do. they just stole some pixels for a 10 year old game... big tough guy XD
If the account is hacked, an investigation will ensue to make sure it was not the fault of a moderator. If it is found that it was a random hacker and noone associated with the moderators at jsp then its a lose and the store will be restocked and harder passwords will be used.
As for the actual password, i say we aim for something complex...
example password:
az83nq01pa1
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| n00b^ wrote: | What the fuck! Idea stealer there!
Nah, JK. I got 2 x bots running almost 24/7 and I almost have a full character up at Europe Ladder Softcore. I will save some forumgold and start up some bots on East and West ladder aswell, since over 70% of the d3jsp users originally are americans
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You gotta be kiddin'.
Anyway good idea, just to short up. |
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Prices change quite a lot every week. This idea is too challenging for mod team and no one would be able to take responsibility for setting up fg scaler.
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| spiochek_ma_bana wrote: | | Prices change quite a lot every week. This idea is too challenging for mod team and no one would be able to take responsibility for setting up fg scaler. |
I'm sure there would be a mod panel where moderators could modify the prices as the ladder goes on. Even if they were updated weekly the prices would still stay pretty close to the current going price.
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It would be cool if we had, lets say 3-4 users who could bot. Cdkeys would be handed out free to the botters (Maybe, just a thought!) So we can bot even more to get some new members to the d3jsp site 
I could run in different realms, but at the moment i'll run in europe. so like,
user xxx = Europe
user xxx2 = East
userxxxx3 = west
userxxx4 = asia JK LOL! no1 plays asia.
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| n00b^ wrote: | It would be cool if we had, lets say 3-4 users who could bot. Cdkeys would be handed out free to the botters (Maybe, just a thought!) So we can bot even more to get some new members to the d3jsp site
I could run in different realms, but at the moment i'll run in europe. so like,
user xxx = Europe
user xxx2 = East
userxxxx3 = west
userxxx4 = asia JK LOL! no1 plays asia.
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I used to play Asia  as well as East.
I'm still all down for the idea, I can hold ops in a channel 24/7 (nearly, internet drops at 1 PM EST every day then comes back up) so that shouldn't be hard to handle. If we get this item thing working as well I'm sure we could pool some FG onto a "bank" account that only select members will have access to which we can use to send / receive FG for items (if we're using pillo's item buyer / seller idea).
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| Myoga- wrote: | | n00b^ wrote: | It would be cool if we had, lets say 3-4 users who could bot. Cdkeys would be handed out free to the botters (Maybe, just a thought!) So we can bot even more to get some new members to the d3jsp site
I could run in different realms, but at the moment i'll run in europe. so like,
user xxx = Europe
user xxx2 = East
userxxxx3 = west
userxxx4 = asia JK LOL! no1 plays asia.
anyways, I think this would be a good idea. |
I used to play Asia as well as East.
I'm still all down for the idea, I can hold ops in a channel 24/7 (nearly, internet drops at 1 PM EST every day then comes back up) so that shouldn't be hard to handle. If we get this item thing working as well I'm sure we could pool some FG onto a "bank" account that only select members will have access to which we can use to send / receive FG for items (if we're using pillo's item buyer / seller idea). |
asia is where i play hardcore whenever im playing it for fun instead of items or ladder lol.
but this is a bump, would still like to see this idea considered and possibly inplemented. because at the moment the store is useless XD
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I have got 3 bots running as we speak, im very active in botting at the moment.. everything for the site, right? 
I would like one of the staffmembers to take a look at this.. im down too. |
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| Myoga- wrote: | You would need a bot that can accept the items 24/7 and know what it is picking up. For example, a low stat BotD will sell for a lot less then a near perf BotD so it will need to be able to make price judgments based on stats.
Also, the mule that picks up the item will need to message another bot (since as far as I know bots like D2NT can't interact with the web) so you'll need a quick script that will work for MirageBot (I can do that no problem rofl, including the PHP part), that will interact with a PHP script that adds / removes items.
Ex.
Mule picks up item in game, sends whisper to _AccountInChannel_ (*rec / *nr) (*item, (*stat1, *stat2, *stat3)) etc. (Maybe even skin / gfx )
Then the _AccountInChannel_ loads up a webpage like so: http://www.d3jsp.org/items.php?action=(rec/sold)&item=$item&stat1=$stat1&stat2=$stat2 etc etc.
Which then the PHP script would update the shop.
I really like this idea, although it would take a few dedicated programmers to get it up and running (one person could potentially do it but the more the merrier ^^).
I'm all for the idea. |
seems like you already know how to program it
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you guys get this rolling and ill donate a cdkey to d3jsp for use during this
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I DONATE A GULL DAGGER TOWARD THIS FUND!
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| Craisaur wrote: | | I DONATE A GULL DAGGER TOWARD THIS FUND! |
cha ching! my favorite weapon 
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I also just found
Flawless Amethyst
A rare helm:
39def
10fhr
31 life
15 fire res
red color
and a nice armor
10fhr
38 mana
19 cold res
1 socket (free)
363 def
and also nice boots that give 2 to leap
Which all will be donations to the shop
As I continue mfing normal diablo I will continue findign more godly's to donate
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| Craisaur wrote: | I also just found
Flawless Amethyst
A rare helm:
39def
10fhr
31 life
15 fire res
red color
and a nice armor
10fhr
38 mana
19 cold res
1 socket (free)
363 def
and also nice boots that give 2 to leap
Which all will be donations to the shop
As I continue mfing normal diablo I will continue findign more godly's to donate |
unfortunately until the system is perfected we will only accept uniques mi amigo, how about you spread the love and join a random game and give them to those noobs. It will only help the community Great finds though, keep up the good work
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