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Basi
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#1 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 10:37 am Post subject: Make Selling/Trading Forum Available to Donors Only |
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| This was Nate's idea and I think it is one of the best ones that have been thrown around in some time. Make the s/t forum available for donors only. Minimum of $5 imo, or an m++ tag. this would SEVERELY cut down on the multis/scammers that keep advantage of people. Your thoughts? |
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#2 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Well I want to mention this is a good idea, but still
not everyone is a scammer, therefor it would had disadvantages for users, who aren't scammers and haven't donated.
I dont know, this sounds good, but I doubt it gets added. _________________ This user's signature has been disabled |
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Basi
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#3 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Templar wrote: | Well I want to mention this is a good idea, but still
not everyone is a scammer, therefor it would had disadvantages for users, who aren't scammers and haven't donated.
I dont know, this sounds good, but I doubt it gets added. |
Even if you made it $1 to use the section, it would still deter a lot of scammer from making the 10+ multis. |
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#4 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| Basi wrote: | | Templar wrote: | Well I want to mention this is a good idea, but still
not everyone is a scammer, therefor it would had disadvantages for users, who aren't scammers and haven't donated.
I dont know, this sounds good, but I doubt it gets added. |
Even if you made it $1 to use the section, it would still deter a lot of scammer from making the 10+ multis. |
How so? Spending $1 to get $80 back isn't much of a deterrence. It seems more like you're saying tram should get a piece of the action. _____________________
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#5 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 11:55 am Post subject: |
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scammers that do donate often charge back via paypal
though that would make things harder for them to require donor access , members ++ , or a mod approval |
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Basi
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#6 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Vassago wrote: | | Basi wrote: | | Templar wrote: | Well I want to mention this is a good idea, but still
not everyone is a scammer, therefor it would had disadvantages for users, who aren't scammers and haven't donated.
I dont know, this sounds good, but I doubt it gets added. |
Even if you made it $1 to use the section, it would still deter a lot of scammer from making the 10+ multis. |
How so? Spending $1 to get $80 back isn't much of a deterrence. It seems more like you're saying tram should get a piece of the action. |
$80 scams don't happen too often. even ancients who was one of the site donators got banned scamming like $40 odd. anyway the pressure would be on the multis to scam once they invest $1 and in being more blatant i think it would be more obvious to other members that they are actually a scammer. |
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Basi
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#7 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| Happyguy44 wrote: | scammers that do donate often charge back via paypal
though that would make things harder for them to require donor access , members ++ , or a mod approval |
i didn't realize charging back was that common, i guess this idea is pretty much nulified due to that. mod approval is a step in the right direction though. |
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#8 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 01:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yes but it gets rid of the randos..
Also which is why we change Members++ to Donors++ and then we're set _____________________
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Basi
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#9 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 01:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Nate wrote: | Yes but it gets rid of the randos..
Also which is why we change Members++ to Donors++ and then we're set |
Overall I agree.
No doubt it wouldn't hurt anything and even if the improvement if offers can be nulified by chargeback it still is something beneficial despite how slight. |
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#10 Posted: 25 Jan 2011 02:20 pm Post subject: |
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How long do they have to charge back an account?
Make it so there is no way to charge back before they get Donor access.
And I say UP the price of DF access.
And you should need a certain amount of posts too before being able to trade.
Though if you're making people pay for trading, then we should figure out a way that it is 99.9% they wont get scammed.
Also, maybe add a smaller fg donation that they can gain access. Say 500? Because they would need to do a trade for the 500. Unless they spam 1,000 posts.
Which I don't see happening.
Just throwing some ideas in there. Nothing 100%
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#11 Posted: 31 Jan 2011 03:27 pm Post subject: |
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To account for scanners chargebacking donations to go around this new hypothetical rule
...just make them wait 30 days for the chargeback period time to expire (if they use paypal funds) |
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#12 Posted: 31 Jan 2011 03:29 pm Post subject: |
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This forum is the reason 50% of users come here, if not more.
Making it DF only would cause the site to die imho |
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#13 Posted: 31 Jan 2011 05:48 pm Post subject: |
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| theoneguff wrote: | This forum is the reason 99% of old scammers come here, if not more.
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#14 Posted: 31 Jan 2011 06:18 pm Post subject: |
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| theoneguff wrote: | This forum is the reason 50% of users come here, if not more.
Making it DF only would cause the site to die imho |
View Forum: Polska:
Topics: 18713
Posts: 246124
Give me one scammer out of this sub-forum. |
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#15 Posted: 14 Mar 2011 02:46 am Post subject: |
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#16 Posted: 14 Mar 2011 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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We have a donor forum selling and trading now, I encourage everyone trade with donors only! _____________________
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