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NoricuM
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#1 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:22 am Post subject: Selling FG + Question about Moneybookers |
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hi
I have like 250 k FG and I would like to sell it.
So my question is - how safe is moneybookers? What to do to prevent scams there? I have paypal, too, but I've got told that even gifts could be charged back with some mails to the support...
If someone with a good rep wants FG, PM me, I could sell it to a shop, but not with a good ratio, so I look here. I wont sell it to anyone if I am not 100% sure that he is trustable.
For me the best would be Western Union, but as I don't have rep here I understand that people wont send me money via WU.
Shops, who need more FG are welcome, I can get infinite FG.
Also can sell US East items
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luffy
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#2 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:29 am Post subject: |
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What is a price for 40-50k?
Can you send me a private msg of it ?
Btw Moneybookers is the Safest Web on World as far i know _________________ This user's signature has been disabled |
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Juggernaut_ICP
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#3 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:32 am Post subject: |
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im interested in buy 20 k offer 200$ i pay whit pp veri user and gift
inposivol charge back
chec my repms  _____________________ I report people on d2jsp |
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NoricuM
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#4 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:33 am Post subject: |
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luffy wrote: | What is a price for 40-50k?
Can you send me a private msg of it ?
Btw Moneybookers is the Safest Web on World as far i know |
I have to find out the prices atm.
I want to know first how safe moneybookers really is.
And if there is someone, who owns a shop I don't know here, who likes to take more and more FG. |
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swedishgirl
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#5 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:33 am Post subject: |
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Moneybookers is 100% safe. No chargebacks or shit like that but its really up to who you're trading with. I have never ever used Moneybookers and I have traded fine.. |
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luffy
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#6 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:34 am Post subject: |
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If Good Price i will Ask To Shop Owner who can Buy over 100k per week
iso a price first to fix it . _________________ This user's signature has been disabled |
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NoricuM
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#7 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:38 am Post subject: |
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luffy wrote: | If Good Price i will Ask To Shop Owner who can Buy over 100k per week
iso a price first to fix it . |
well, can you PM me the name of the shop? I know some shop owners myself
swedishgirl wrote: | Moneybookers is 100% safe. No chargebacks or shit like that but its really up to who you're trading with. I have never ever used Moneybookers and I have traded fine.. |
thank you, looking for more experiences with moneybookers..
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Dragonelf
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#8 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:41 am Post subject: |
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1. Forumgold prices
The forumgold here gets usually sold for:
max: 13$/1k (very rar 14$/1k)
Average: 12$/1k
Low: 10$-11$ / k
2. Paypal safe?
I´ve sold around ~150k fg here in the past months/year
Nobody ever made a chargeback. I always make sure people send as gift and it was never a problem
3. Moneybookers
Only a few users here have moneybookers. It might be safe for the seller, but most people here only have pokerstars/paypal
Thats why I sell paypal only, most people use that
4. Massbuyers
User: http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=17540
Owns an itemshop and buys lot of fg usually for 12$/1k, paying with verified paypal. I´ve sold him around 10k fg, it was never a problem and always safe. This user is one of the most trusted people on this site - in my opinion
5. Getting reputation / dealing with scammers
A lot of users here try to scam and want you to send upfront. If you hav like 10 reputatins, people will send first to you, but until you have so much reputation, feel free to pm me for trades.
I mediate here some trades as private person. D3jsp.org in general does not support fg trades
6. Any questions ?
Feel free to pm me |
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Juggernaut_ICP
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#9 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 08:48 am Post subject: |
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i accept mediaton
i buy you 20 k for months  _____________________ I report people on d2jsp |
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NothingButaPeanut
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#10 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Paypal gift is reasonable safe but they can still chargeback you if they call paypal support and claim unauthorized transaction. (works almost 100% if they used proxy).
I haven't experienced a gift chargeback yet either but I want to tell you that the risk exist.
Dragonelf's recommendation might be good but I wouldn't sell that much to anyone. arnyekvilag has only been a member for 4 months and you can chargeback 6months-1year after a transaction (although it's rare).
("omg i was on a trip to thailand for 4 months and now I come back and see a lot of unauthorized transactions on my PP. Please help me!!!").
Moneybookers and WU are both secure, to my knowledge. Few people use it though, most people here use paypal and pokerstars.
I would advise you not to trade with new users. Try to pick older/more reputable members.
Also, people here scam for as low as 100 fgs. Doing 10k+ is not a good idea. Even mediators have scammed on this site when the stakes was high enough.
Try to deal in increments if possible. And do your best to avoid upfronting to people...
-Don't trade with locked/scammertagged people. No matter what story they come up with.
-Avoid dealing with people that makes multiple offers in a lot of threads. People that only trade if you go first.
-Check their reps and make sure they dont come from scammertagged/locked users.
-Check if they both buy and sell fg at the same time. Usually a bad sign.
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NoricuM
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#11 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 01:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you both guys. PM'd some ppl, I hope they wont scam me
Not trading with new users, well, I am a quite new user, too. At least I was not much online here. |
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Gogeta
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#12 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 06:06 pm Post subject: |
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taking 100$ on fgs here
with dragonelf the med |
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robert4451 ~~COOLFACE~~
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#13 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 06:14 pm Post subject: |
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if I were you I'd not accept paypal. I got chergebacked for 200 usd + now and in retrospective I'd prefer to wait for somebody who can use moneybokers. Patience is the key. It doesn't matter if dragonelf mediates; he has no control over chargebacking. Be patient, don't use paypal, sit on the fg until sb with a mb acc comes forth. cheers _____________________ Throw some d3jsp fg my way and I will put your name in my signature. (top 3 only and from now on, minimum donation = 5 fg)
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NoricuM
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#14 Posted: 26 Dec 2011 06:50 pm Post subject: |
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robert4451 wrote: | if I were you I'd not accept paypal. I got chergebacked for 200 usd + now and in retrospective I'd prefer to wait for somebody who can use moneybokers. Patience is the key. It doesn't matter if dragonelf mediates; he has no control over chargebacking. Be patient, don't use paypal, sit on the fg until sb with a mb acc comes forth. cheers |
I like moneybookers more, anyways. But isn't there a way to do chargeback, too? |
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