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Post#1 Posted: 04 Apr 2011 08:55 pm    Post subject: Fire trappers Reply with quote

Can they be decent with right gear? I am thinking of building one on Non-ladder
anyone ever made one?

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Post#2 Posted: 04 Apr 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Fire trappers Reply with quote

Exactly wrote:
Can they be decent with right gear? I am thinking of building one on Non-ladder
anyone ever made one?


yes, they are amazing stun lockers. You get a char that can't be stunlocked (barbs whirlwind)
and you are ehm... toast. Most other chars they rock at and you can even beat barbs if you whirl occasionally and lock the rest of the time.

Very good 1 v 1 chars.

LMK if you have questions about them. The funniest part about them is how slowly and surely they kill.

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Post#3 Posted: 06 Apr 2011 03:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not pure because they're easy as shit to avoid. but if you do a hybrid they're better than ls/ww imo
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Post#4 Posted: 07 Apr 2011 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys know gear to use for hybrid?
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Post#5 Posted: 07 Apr 2011 04:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same for any sin...

Vis/20fcr hat with bonuses like 2sin/str/dex/life/res
decent chaos (with skills in a rt) and fools rt (eth and repair are good mods)
trang gloves
nigma
dancers
arach
hot sin ammy with at least 5 fcr
2x sojs
shadow lifers (traps are there to stun more than do damage)

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Post#6 Posted: 08 Apr 2011 05:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never made hybrid before
why would you use sojs though? Arent fcr/str/life rep/mana/res rings better?
All people who post their hybrids on other site in trophy room use those

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Post#7 Posted: 08 Apr 2011 06:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly wrote:
I never made hybrid before
why would you use sojs though? Arent fcr/str/life rep/mana/res rings better?
All people who post their hybrids on other site in trophy room use those


well it works like this, you NEED 65fcr so you have to find a right combination

the number one option for a hat is fcr/vis/gosu stats
the number one option for gloves is trangs

so the belt and rings are debatable. personally i like sojs and arach because if your hat is good enough you don't need the extra stats and i like the 3 skill boost to venom/traps/mb/fade/etc. not to mention sins ALWAYS have mana problems if you're aggressive. on NL most sins use bmanas just so u don't have to worry about the mass mana you're always using.

however you can sacrifice the runic talons and go for better damage claws and the requirements on them will be higher (it will also be a lot tougher to hit max ias frames on your traps). but if you go this route you won't be able to be base str/dex with just your hat no matter how good it is and to keep that base you'll need rings.

if you get 2 gfg rings then you hit 65fcr and won't need arach. some say get dungos instead, some say get the belt that slows the other person (haven't played in over a year so i forgot what it's called, it's the ones thats most commonly used by zons. imo if you go the fcr ring route, get a godly rare belt with 24fhr/50+life/str/res.


but ghosts and hybrids are about patience. i personally choose the arach/sojs over the fcr rings/other belt, sure it's cheaper and "less sexy" but imo it gets the job done better. sins are all about getting in, doing the damage, getting out losing as little life as possible, and repeat til you kill the faggot.
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Post#8 Posted: 09 Apr 2011 01:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try it out and lyk how it goes
I never played a trap sin before, so I know it's going to be a bumpy start

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Post#9 Posted: 09 Apr 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly wrote:
I'll try it out and lyk how it goes
I never played a trap sin before, so I know it's going to be a bumpy start


very bumpy

playing trapsins are cake, even learning to be aggressive is simple. ghosts and hybrids on the other hand take awhile to figure out
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Post#10 Posted: 09 Apr 2011 03:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about scs, should I use bmanas?
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Post#11 Posted: 09 Apr 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If u have fcr rings get bmanas
if u got sojs on u can use life/ar and life/res
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Post#12 Posted: 10 Apr 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to go with one rare ring+ soj
rare ring is:
10fcr
11dex
39 life
63 mana
11 res all

And bought 5 unperm/unknown bmana's today as well
My sin is lvl 89 atm
what level you suggest to stop lvling at?

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Post#13 Posted: 10 Apr 2011 04:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you use 1 ring you might as well just get another since (unless the ammy is gfg and has 15+fcr) you'll still need to wear arach
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Post#14 Posted: 10 Apr 2011 04:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ammy is

1sin (lol i know)
20fcr
18str
49 life
xx mana
and auto mods

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Post#15 Posted: 11 Apr 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect. For sure fuck arach then and get a gosu rare belt or dungo
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Post#16 Posted: 11 Apr 2011 02:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basi wrote:
Same for any sin...

Vis/20fcr hat with bonuses like 2sin/str/dex/life/res
decent chaos (with skills in a rt) and fools rt (eth and repair are good mods)
trang gloves
nigma
dancers
arach
hot sin ammy with at least 5 fcr
2x sojs
shadow lifers (traps are there to stun more than do damage)

any questions pm me


this is only for 65 fcr bp i use the 102 bp. any questions hit me up im a sin dude

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Post#17 Posted: 11 Apr 2011 02:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Basi wrote:
Same for any sin...

Vis/20fcr hat with bonuses like 2sin/str/dex/life/res
decent chaos (with skills in a rt) and fools rt (eth and repair are good mods)
trang gloves
nigma
dancers
arach
hot sin ammy with at least 5 fcr
2x sojs
shadow lifers (traps are there to stun more than do damage)

any questions pm me


this is only for 65 fcr bp i use the 102 bp. any questions hit me up im a sin dude


102 fcr on a hybrid is a huge no no lol

not worth it AT ALL

maybe pure traps but def. not any sin that has a chaos
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Post#18 Posted: 12 Apr 2011 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basi wrote:
Frozen Horror wrote:
Basi wrote:
Same for any sin...

Vis/20fcr hat with bonuses like 2sin/str/dex/life/res
decent chaos (with skills in a rt) and fools rt (eth and repair are good mods)
trang gloves
nigma
dancers
arach
hot sin ammy with at least 5 fcr
2x sojs
shadow lifers (traps are there to stun more than do damage)

any questions pm me


this is only for 65 fcr bp i use the 102 bp. any questions hit me up im a sin dude


102 fcr on a hybrid is a huge no no lol

not worth it AT ALL

maybe pure traps but def. not any sin that has a chaos


you cannot be serious lol. 102 IS necessarry for sorcs, necs, and 163 druids. without it you wont mb ls tele and ww fast enough, you have to be fast enough to keep them in the same lock and 65 fcr isnt enough to do so no way

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Frozen Horror wrote:
Basi wrote:
Frozen Horror wrote:
Basi wrote:
Same for any sin...

Vis/20fcr hat with bonuses like 2sin/str/dex/life/res
decent chaos (with skills in a rt) and fools rt (eth and repair are good mods)
trang gloves
nigma
dancers
arach
hot sin ammy with at least 5 fcr
2x sojs
shadow lifers (traps are there to stun more than do damage)

any questions pm me


this is only for 65 fcr bp i use the 102 bp. any questions hit me up im a sin dude


102 fcr on a hybrid is a huge no no lol

not worth it AT ALL

maybe pure traps but def. not any sin that has a chaos


you cannot be serious lol. 102 IS necessarry for sorcs, necs, and 163 druids. without it you wont mb ls tele and ww fast enough, you have to be fast enough to keep them in the same lock and 65 fcr isnt enough to do so no way


to hit 102fcr on a hybrid you have to wear griffs. do you know how much ar/damage/life you will lose? to be blunt, a shitload. being able to mb a tad faster is not close to worth it lol. teleing would obviously help, but if you're good you can just cl with df and it negates the issue of catching them.

u don't even have to cl with df, regular tele/cl will be fine too. i take ti you don't play bvcs often? if you do you'll realize 65fcr is more than enough as long as you know what you're doing.
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Basi wrote:
Frozen Horror wrote:
Basi wrote:
Frozen Horror wrote:
Basi wrote:
Same for any sin...

Vis/20fcr hat with bonuses like 2sin/str/dex/life/res
decent chaos (with skills in a rt) and fools rt (eth and repair are good mods)
trang gloves
nigma
dancers
arach
hot sin ammy with at least 5 fcr
2x sojs
shadow lifers (traps are there to stun more than do damage)

any questions pm me


this is only for 65 fcr bp i use the 102 bp. any questions hit me up im a sin dude


102 fcr on a hybrid is a huge no no lol

not worth it AT ALL

maybe pure traps but def. not any sin that has a chaos


you cannot be serious lol. 102 IS necessarry for sorcs, necs, and 163 druids. without it you wont mb ls tele and ww fast enough, you have to be fast enough to keep them in the same lock and 65 fcr isnt enough to do so no way


to hit 102fcr on a hybrid you have to wear griffs. do you know how much ar/damage/life you will lose? to be blunt, a shitload. being able to mb a tad faster is not close to worth it lol. teleing would obviously help, but if you're good you can just cl with df and it negates the issue of catching them.

u don't even have to cl with df, regular tele/cl will be fine too. i take ti you don't play bvcs often? if you do you'll realize 65fcr is more than enough as long as you know what you're doing.


im aware and without a vis circ (which i have for switch when i use 65 fcr) you still have 2.5k ar with a fury and 8k with fools which is more than enough to take out any char. yes for pallys the extra ar helps alot but not needed since my sin is a ls/ows hybrid. all i gotta do is hit and ows takes over


and exactly i have a couple sin ammys ft if you need one is for 102 bp for 1k d2fg and the other is a 65 fcr bp and im selling it for 2k d2fg lmmk if you need

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