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#1 Posted: 07 Apr 2009 03:51 am Post subject: Hammer/Smiter PvP 1v1-7v1 by Bo$$ |
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I was looking at the forum and saw all the crappy hammerdins guides...
So Taste Mine!!
1. About
Hammerdins are one (maby even only one) of the strongest survivors in sanctuary world, imopssible to absorb, big dr, hudge life, fast block, large resists and more makes them an easy character to play and one of the strongest duelers in game.
2. Statistics
Str: eugh to wear CoA
Dex: eugh to max block with Holy Sheald
Vita: rest goes in here
Energy: none
3. Skills
Blessed hammer : main attack MAX
Concentration : main aura used MAX
Blessed aim : synergy MAX
Vigor : synergy MAX
Cleansing : 1 point
Defiance : 1 point
Meditation : 1 point
Fanaticism : 1 point
Holy shield : rest of the points here
WARNING remeber putting skill points and stats is tricky. for example you are lvl 89 and redistributing stats and skills remember that Holy Sheald gives bonus to max block. So redustribute the point carefully to not waste any in dexterity
4. Breakpoints
Faster Hit Recorvery
0% 9
7% 8
15% 7
27% 6
48% 5
86% 4<- our goal
200% 3
4680% 2
Faster Cast Rate
0% 15
9% 14
18% 13
30% 12
48% 11
75% 10<- our goal with smiter equip
125% 9<- our goal with hoto/hammer equip
Faster Block Rate (with Holy Sheald)
0% 2<-our goal
86% 1
5. Equipment & Inventory
Helm
Crown Of Ages(CoA)
Rare Circlet in stash possibly with 2pala/dexterity/life/20%fcr/2sock <- circ is needed when you swich to fight with cersent moon or eternity
Weapon
Hoto in flail
wizzardspike<- useful when lacking res
Grief PB <- main weapon for no tele chars
Cersent Moon <- main weapon for HvH
Sheald
Spirit rw in best hammer sheald you can get. I've made this one in sacred targe with 42all res
Amulet Rings and Belt why together? here is the explaination
from these four items you will need 30fcr if you are playing on europe the best choice will be setup:
Bug belt + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 2pala/10fcr/2x str/life/mana
other choice:
verdungo+ 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 2pala/10fcr/2x str/life/mana amu
other other choice:) :
Verdungo/Bug belt + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + Ravenfrost + 2pala/20fcr/dex/mana/res amu
the stats are negotiable more you have better your char is but 30% fcr is a MUST
Armour
Enigma <- i preffer dusk because of low str req and the LOOK
Gloves
Trangs <- my choice
Boots
Upped Waterwalks <- life/dex/nice def/max fire resist
Switch
Cta in a pally scepter
spirit to boost bo
Inventory
Torch, anni, 5 pala combat sks with life, 1*5fhr/res sc, the rest of free space we put with life / res scs
Stash
Grief pb
Wizzardspike "Um"
Ravenfrost if you dont use it as main ring
Hotspurs to absorb this f***ing FB sorcs
Thundergods
Cresent moon
The 2 pala 20 fcr amus
The 2 pala 20 fcr xx dex xx life circlet/tiara/diadem
Shako "Jah"
Bloodfist
Whisp "20 abs"
Arachnid
enjoy playing this char
feel free to correct me and add questions
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Rap
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#2 Posted: 07 Apr 2009 04:04 am Post subject: Re: Hammer/Smiter PvP 1v1-7v1 by Bo$$ |
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Bo$$ wrote: | I was looking at the forum and saw all the crappy hammerdins guides...
So Taste Mine!!
1. About
Hammerdins are one (maby even only one) of the strongest survivors in sanctuary world, imopssible to absorb, big dr, hudge life, fast block, large resists and more makes them an easy character to play and one of the strongest duelers in game.
2. Statistics
Str: eugh to wear CoA
Dex: eugh to max block with Holy Sheald
Vita: rest goes in here
Energy: none
3. Skills
Blessed hammer : main attack MAX
Concentration : main aura used MAX
Blessed aim : synergy MAX
Vigor : synergy MAX
Cleansing : 1 point
Defiance : 1 point
Meditation : 1 point
Fanaticism : 1 point
Holy shield : rest of the points here
WARNING remeber putting skill points and stats is tricky. for example you are lvl 89 and redistributing stats and skills remember that Holy Sheald gives bonus to max block. So redustribute the point carefully to not waste any in dexterity
4. Breakpoints
Faster Hit Recorvery
0% 9
7% 8
15% 7
27% 6
48% 5
86% 4<- our goal
200% 3
4680% 2
Faster Cast Rate
0% 15
9% 14
18% 13
30% 12
48% 11
75% 10<- our goal with smiter equip
125% 9<- our goal with hoto/hammer equip
Faster Block Rate (with Holy Sheald)
0% 2<-our goal
86% 1
5. Equipment & Inventory
Helm
Crown Of Ages(CoA)
Rare Circlet in stash possibly with 2pala/dexterity/life/20%fcr/2sock <- circ is needed when you swich to fight with cersent moon or eternity
Weapon
Hoto in flail
wizzardspike<- useful when lacking res
Grief PB <- main weapon for no tele chars
Cersent Moon <- main weapon for HvH
Sheald
Spirit rw in best hammer sheald you can get. I've made this one in sacred targe with 42all res
Amulet Rings and Belt why together? here is the explaination
from these four items you will need 30fcr if you are playing on europe the best choice will be setup:
Bug belt + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 2pala/10fcr/2x str/life/mana
other choice:
verdungo+ 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + 2pala/10fcr/2x str/life/mana amu
other other choice:) :
Verdungo/Bug belt + 10fcr/dex/life/mana/res ring + Ravenfrost + 2pala/20fcr/dex/mana/res amu
the stats are negotiable more you have better your char is but 30% fcr is a MUST
Armour
Enigma <- i preffer dusk because of low str req and the LOOK
Gloves
Trangs <- my choice
Boots
Upped Waterwalks <- life/dex/nice def/max fire resist
Switch
Cta in a pally scepter
spirit to boost bo
Inventory
Torch, anni, 5 pala combat sks with life, 1*5fhr/res sc, the rest of free space we put with life / res scs
Stash
Grief pb
Wizzardspike "Um"
Ravenfrost if you dont use it as main ring
Hotspurs to absorb this f***ing FB sorcs
Thundergods
Cresent moon
The 2 pala 20 fcr amus
The 2 pala 20 fcr xx dex xx life circlet/tiara/diadem
Shako "Jah"
Bloodfist
Whisp "20 abs"
Arachnid
enjoy playing this char
feel free to correct me and add questions |
nb but
this: http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=17251 rapes yours
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#3 Posted: 07 Apr 2009 04:35 am Post subject: |
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imo hammer/smiter without raven in base setup is a dead hammer smiter
but nice guide by this banned user
anyway check out the DR that his build have
and check out mine
i reach 50dr easly and hes got half of it
he posted a hammerdin guide with coa thats the only difference between a standard hammer and a hammer/smiter
add a shako to his setup and you have a hammer for baal bot
so stop posting bullshit
11k dmg with 9 pc skillers? OMG! i make 10k with 4 and have 2k life more than him
i just wonder how the heck he would kill a 95es sorc
hes also lacking cersent moon to fight HvH hes lacking TG vs javas/l.sorcs
me>him
/e i wonder how he would kill a foh pally with the resists hes got
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#4 Posted: 07 Apr 2009 06:46 am Post subject: |
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Nice guide, actually ~ but I'd like some strategy tips as well.
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#5 Posted: 07 Apr 2009 06:57 am Post subject: |
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edited to last post
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#6 Posted: 07 Apr 2009 08:33 am Post subject: |
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his build can get up to 5k life but did you test it?
what about dr?
max life on pc skiller is 45 max life you can get from 3scs wich i use is 60 + resists
now i'm going to count his res so coa +30 hoto +40 spirit +75 gloves 30cr anni +20 torch +20 ammy +20 +10scs = 50 ring 20 quests 30
total = 30+40+75+20+20+20+50+20+30 = 305
penality from hell -100
penality from conv -200
5 all res? good luck
i counted perfect items that are not affordable for most users
anyways 2x dr and 5all resi is not eugh...
PWND
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#7 Posted: 07 Apr 2009 05:33 pm Post subject: |
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I am just gonna post here 1 more time:
Ordinator posted standard coa build
which is used by most good pvpers
max conviction - is not 200 its 150.
and even with stacked res foh will take hdin out in 3-5 fohs
foh has way more advantage on hdin
therefor only ways to beat foh are:
be quick and telestomp him.
put wisps on and finish him off.
But one thing you dont understand
no pro pvper will use foh
only foh ull face are in pubs , and its very rare class imo
only fohs I dueld where shitty pub fohs which are nothing even if you have 50res all on screen
And that hammerdin gets
31 dr not 2x
46 with dungo
but seeing as you got maxblock
and you are a hammerdin
you should have no problems with:
barbs/zealers/ w.e melees
hammerdins are not bone necros
if you dont know that
you should delete your hammerdin asap
Infact
you can easily destroy any barb with all vita build and 10dr from shako
because hammers deal insane damage
and any melee has to get super close to you to hit you
with max block + 15k +def
it will make it superhard for them to even hit you
2-3 hammers and they are dead
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your main hvh weapon is crescent moon
this is bm hvh weapon
there for your hammerdin cant duel in gm duel
unless he switches to un needed wizzy in pvp
Hoto > wizzy in every way
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#8 Posted: 08 Apr 2009 02:25 am Post subject: |
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anyways maby his guide is better writen...
but my build is better. I dont play GM duels only fun pub games
so here i need max dr max block max resi
it's more like a defensive hammer/smiter than an offensive 17k hammer
anyways thank you for your critics |
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#9 Posted: 08 Apr 2009 02:55 am Post subject: |
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Bo$$ wrote: | anyways maby his guide is better writen...
but my build is better. I dont play GM duels only fun pub games
so here i need max dr max block max resi
it's more like a defensive hammer/smiter than an offensive 17k hammer
anyways thank you for your critics |
for pubs yours is better
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#10 Posted: 10 Apr 2009 03:20 am Post subject: |
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if you say so |
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