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Post#21 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
DuckDuckGo wrote:
why hlord? amu should be 3trap/10fcr


i see whats wrong here, ok

it is basically 102fcr vs maxed speed...

ok lets say like that:

in p8 ds is not that important, so shattering via raven not a hard crime...


ok u got it, feetgratulations.

Anyway u get a lot of corpses to explode with ds with high dmg traps, does not matter much if kicked mobs explode on ice.


oh ty good sir

im not a total noob here, and can use ias calc on somehow decent level happy

i hear what you are talking about


ONEVER WHAIIII WHATTHEFEETz Stormshield is a muzt!11111111111.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.

Or just forget stormlash and use Cmoon cos belive me, statics drop anyway and its a way faster weapon when made into phaseblade ofc roll1 solves a lot of trouble in this matter.
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Post#22 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
DuckDuckGo wrote:
why hlord? amu should be 3trap/10fcr


i see whats wrong here, ok

it is basically 102fcr vs maxed speed...

ok lets say like that:

in p8 ds is not that important, so shattering via raven not a hard crime...


ok u got it, feetgratulations.

Anyway u get a lot of corpses to explode with ds with high dmg traps, does not matter much if kicked mobs explode on ice.


oh ty good sir

im not a total noob here, and can use ias calc on somehow decent level happy

i hear what you are talking about


ONEVER WHAIIII WHATTHEFEETz Stormshield is a muzt!11111111111.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.

Or just forget stormlash and use Cmoon cos belive me, statics drop anyway and its a way faster weapon when made into phaseblade ofc roll1 solves a lot of trouble in this matter.


33cb loss?

not acceptable?
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Post#23 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
DuckDuckGo wrote:
why hlord? amu should be 3trap/10fcr


i see whats wrong here, ok

it is basically 102fcr vs maxed speed...

ok lets say like that:

in p8 ds is not that important, so shattering via raven not a hard crime...


ok u got it, feetgratulations.

Anyway u get a lot of corpses to explode with ds with high dmg traps, does not matter much if kicked mobs explode on ice.


oh ty good sir

im not a total noob here, and can use ias calc on somehow decent level happy

i hear what you are talking about


ONEVER WHAIIII WHATTHEFEETz Stormshield is a muzt!11111111111.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.

Or just forget stormlash and use Cmoon cos belive me, statics drop anyway and its a way faster weapon when made into phaseblade ofc roll1 solves a lot of trouble in this matter.


33cb loss?


CB lives dont matter.

Well u could go like this: O_o

Stormlash shael, 3trap/20fcr cham/15ias-@ or ed jool, jewellers monarch of deflection with 2x15ias/15@ or ed jools, 2xbers to compensate the SS dr% lose. But meh... would need much more dex for max block, and would have not 50% dr i think.

Or even Stormlash Ber, and using all the jmod sox for ias, but again seems a very retardedNOTNORMALPERSAZONFEET OPTION TO MEFEET.

SS makes life very easy.
not acceptable?


CB lives dont matter.

Well u could go like this: O_o

Stormlash shael, 3trap/20fcr cham/15ias-@ or ed jool, jewellers monarch of deflection with 2x15ias/15@ or ed jools, 2xbers to compensate the SS dr% lose. But meh... would need much more dex for max block, and would have not 50% dr i think.

Or even Stormlash Ber, and using all the jmod sox for ias, but again seems a very retardedNOTNORMALPERSAZONFEET OPTION TO MEFEET.

SS makes life very easy.
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Post#24 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

h, im starting to believe that cmoon is better for traps-heavy p8 kicker...

i dont see any exits how to manage 102fcr, cham, no raven and lash
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Post#25 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

um'd shako
um'd stormshield
dancers
enigma
ber'd azurewrath
20/10 gloves
arach or tgods (depending on how you feel about 0fcr, either way works imo)
raven / soj
maras or sin/fcr ammy (27 fcr is a bp 42 is a bp 65 is a bp [arach+7fcr amulet/arach+swap to cta-spirit to tele/arach+10% amu+swap to cta-spirit to tele]

IMO use arach because a little fcr is a little better than none

5x fhr trap gcs
anni
torch
whatever for scs

what do you get?
90 FHR (86 bp)
73 DR (23 DR while decrepified, 80% reduced duration by fade)
a good trap placement speed
max res (+stacked res via fade)
fairly easy max block with some dex investment
2500-3200 max life (after BO based on cta / whether you did your stat and life quests / whether you have some life on charms) i suspect you can get more than 3200 without much sacrifice at higher clevels
30%cb
+500-1000 magic/cold damage to kicks
sanc aura (knocks back dolls, you're at zero risk of dying to dolls without it however)
a little over 8k damage LS traps (would use 3-4 LS traps and 1-2 DS)
with a gheeds, about 180 MF (can be more or less based on gear / a lot more based on charms)

using traps / DT(kick) primary to bosses

assassin is functionally immortal pvm with among the fastest clear times among all classes (for baal) 2:40-3:15 depending on how dirty throne is / whether baal stands still

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Post#26 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenDreamer wrote:
um'd shako
um'd stormshield
dancers
enigma
ber'd azurewrath
20/10 gloves
arach or tgods (depending on how you feel about 0fcr, either way works imo)
raven / soj
maras or sin/fcr ammy (27 fcr is a bp 42 is a bp 65 is a bp [arach+7fcr amulet/arach+swap to cta-spirit to tele/arach+10% amu+swap to cta-spirit to tele]

IMO use arach because a little fcr is a little better than none

5x fhr trap gcs
anni
torch
whatever for scs

what do you get?
90 FHR (86 bp)
73 DR (23 DR while decrepified, 80% reduced duration by fade)
a good trap placement speed
max res (+stacked res via fade)
fairly easy max block with some dex investment
2500-3200 max life (after BO based on cta / whether you did your stat and life quests / whether you have some life on charms) i suspect you can get more than 3200 without much sacrifice at higher clevels
30%cb
+500-1000 magic/cold damage to kicks
sanc aura (knocks back dolls, you're at zero risk of dying to dolls without it however)
a little over 8k damage LS traps (would use 3-4 LS traps and 1-2 DS)
with a gheeds, about 180 MF (can be more or less based on gear / a lot more based on charms)

using traps / DT(kick) primary to bosses

assassin is functionally immortal pvm with among the fastest clear times among all classes (for baal) 2:40-3:15 depending on how dirty throne is / whether baal stands still


wow, calm down mate

this is very not good

umd shako lol
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Post#27 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WinningBreeds wrote:
ForgottenDreamer wrote:
um'd shako
um'd stormshield
dancers
enigma
ber'd azurewrath
20/10 gloves
arach or tgods (depending on how you feel about 0fcr, either way works imo)
raven / soj
maras or sin/fcr ammy (27 fcr is a bp 42 is a bp 65 is a bp [arach+7fcr amulet/arach+swap to cta-spirit to tele/arach+10% amu+swap to cta-spirit to tele]

IMO use arach because a little fcr is a little better than none

5x fhr trap gcs
anni
torch
whatever for scs

what do you get?
90 FHR (86 bp)
73 DR (23 DR while decrepified, 80% reduced duration by fade)
a good trap placement speed
max res (+stacked res via fade)
fairly easy max block with some dex investment
2500-3200 max life (after BO based on cta / whether you did your stat and life quests / whether you have some life on charms) i suspect you can get more than 3200 without much sacrifice at higher clevels
30%cb
+500-1000 magic/cold damage to kicks
sanc aura (knocks back dolls, you're at zero risk of dying to dolls without it however)
a little over 8k damage LS traps (would use 3-4 LS traps and 1-2 DS)
with a gheeds, about 180 MF (can be more or less based on gear / a lot more based on charms)

using traps / DT(kick) primary to bosses

assassin is functionally immortal pvm with among the fastest clear times among all classes (for baal) 2:40-3:15 depending on how dirty throne is / whether baal stands still


wow, calm down mate

this is very not good

umd shako lol


i dont have a high res anni

shako best in slot, i personally needed the um

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Post#28 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WinningBreeds wrote:
h, im starting to believe that cmoon is better for traps-heavy p8 kicker...

i dont see any exits how to manage 102fcr, cham, no raven and lash


yes, no cta and using a hoto/spirit and then:

BoBarb has joined the game Diablo minions grow stronger.

Boes sin with no effect in WP cuz bad positioning or whatever and LEAVES.

BoBarb has left the game Diablo minions weakenZ.

/f m cumZZZZZZZZ AGIAN IZO BO cumzzzzzzz.

BoBarb has joined the game Diablo minions grow stronger.

rejoins BOES SIN with succezZ. Dies cos WP surrounded by 1000000000000 Urdars cos yes.

BoBarb has left the game Diablo minions weakenZ.

/f m oh u died AHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAH.
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Post#29 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenDreamer wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
ForgottenDreamer wrote:
um'd shako
um'd stormshield
dancers
enigma
ber'd azurewrath
20/10 gloves
arach or tgods (depending on how you feel about 0fcr, either way works imo)
raven / soj
maras or sin/fcr ammy (27 fcr is a bp 42 is a bp 65 is a bp [arach+7fcr amulet/arach+swap to cta-spirit to tele/arach+10% amu+swap to cta-spirit to tele]

IMO use arach because a little fcr is a little better than none

5x fhr trap gcs
anni
torch
whatever for scs

what do you get?
90 FHR (86 bp)
73 DR (23 DR while decrepified, 80% reduced duration by fade)
a good trap placement speed
max res (+stacked res via fade)
fairly easy max block with some dex investment
2500-3200 max life (after BO based on cta / whether you did your stat and life quests / whether you have some life on charms) i suspect you can get more than 3200 without much sacrifice at higher clevels
30%cb
+500-1000 magic/cold damage to kicks
sanc aura (knocks back dolls, you're at zero risk of dying to dolls without it however)
a little over 8k damage LS traps (would use 3-4 LS traps and 1-2 DS)
with a gheeds, about 180 MF (can be more or less based on gear / a lot more based on charms)

using traps / DT(kick) primary to bosses

assassin is functionally immortal pvm with among the fastest clear times among all classes (for baal) 2:40-3:15 depending on how dirty throne is / whether baal stands still


wow, calm down mate

this is very not good

umd shako lol


i dont have a high res anni

shako best in slot, i personally needed the um


no

you are having no clue about kickers

missing anni does not mean that shako um is bis...

2 best items are andy cham and 3/20/2
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Post#30 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and why to have only 8K LS dmg (crap) if u can have 12k and still be as tanky?
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Post#31 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenDreamer wrote:
um'd shako
um'd stormshield
dancers
enigma
ber'd azurewrath
20/10 gloves
arach or tgods (depending on how you feel about 0fcr, either way works imo)
raven / soj
maras or sin/fcr ammy (27 fcr is a bp 42 is a bp 65 is a bp [arach+7fcr amulet/arach+swap to cta-spirit to tele/arach+10% amu+swap to cta-spirit to tele]

IMO use arach because a little fcr is a little better than none

5x fhr trap gcs
anni
torch
whatever for scs

what do you get?
90 FHR (86 bp)
73 DR (23 DR while decrepified, 80% reduced duration by fade)
a good trap placement speed
max res (+stacked res via fade)
fairly easy max block with some dex investment
2500-3200 max life (after BO based on cta / whether you did your stat and life quests / whether you have some life on charms) i suspect you can get more than 3200 without much sacrifice at higher clevels
30%cb
+500-1000 magic/cold damage to kicks
sanc aura (knocks back dolls, you're at zero risk of dying to dolls without it however)
a little over 8k damage LS traps (would use 3-4 LS traps and 1-2 DS)
with a gheeds, about 180 MF (can be more or less based on gear / a lot more based on charms)

using traps / DT(kick) primary to bosses

assassin is functionally immortal pvm with among the fastest clear times among all classes (for baal) 2:40-3:15 depending on how dirty throne is / whether baal stands still


and why to have only 8K LS dmg (crap) if u can have 12k and still be as tanky?
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Post#32 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuckDuckGo wrote:
ForgottenDreamer wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
ForgottenDreamer wrote:
um'd shako
um'd stormshield
dancers
enigma
ber'd azurewrath
20/10 gloves
arach or tgods (depending on how you feel about 0fcr, either way works imo)
raven / soj
maras or sin/fcr ammy (27 fcr is a bp 42 is a bp 65 is a bp [arach+7fcr amulet/arach+swap to cta-spirit to tele/arach+10% amu+swap to cta-spirit to tele]

IMO use arach because a little fcr is a little better than none

5x fhr trap gcs
anni
torch
whatever for scs

what do you get?
90 FHR (86 bp)
73 DR (23 DR while decrepified, 80% reduced duration by fade)
a good trap placement speed
max res (+stacked res via fade)
fairly easy max block with some dex investment
2500-3200 max life (after BO based on cta / whether you did your stat and life quests / whether you have some life on charms) i suspect you can get more than 3200 without much sacrifice at higher clevels
30%cb
+500-1000 magic/cold damage to kicks
sanc aura (knocks back dolls, you're at zero risk of dying to dolls without it however)
a little over 8k damage LS traps (would use 3-4 LS traps and 1-2 DS)
with a gheeds, about 180 MF (can be more or less based on gear / a lot more based on charms)

using traps / DT(kick) primary to bosses

assassin is functionally immortal pvm with among the fastest clear times among all classes (for baal) 2:40-3:15 depending on how dirty throne is / whether baal stands still


wow, calm down mate

this is very not good

umd shako lol


i dont have a high res anni

shako best in slot, i personally needed the um


no

you are having no clue about kickers

missing anni does not mean that shako um is bis...

2 best items are andy cham and 3/20/2


because he thinks that shako um is bis, lol

not even shako 15ias/15res or 30light...

just virgin brain, lol
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Post#33 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
DuckDuckGo wrote:
why hlord? amu should be 3trap/10fcr


i see whats wrong here, ok

it is basically 102fcr vs maxed speed...

ok lets say like that:

in p8 ds is not that important, so shattering via raven not a hard crime...


ok u got it, feetgratulations.

Anyway u get a lot of corpses to explode with ds with high dmg traps, does not matter much if kicked mobs explode on ice.


oh ty good sir

im not a total noob here, and can use ias calc on somehow decent level happy

i hear what you are talking about


ONEVER WHAIIII WHATTHEFEETz Stormshield is a muzt!11111111111.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.

Or just forget stormlash and use Cmoon cos belive me, statics drop anyway and its a way faster weapon when made into phaseblade ofc roll1 solves a lot of trouble in this matter.


33cb loss?


CB lives dont matter.

Well u could go like this: O_o

Stormlash shael, 3trap/20fcr cham/15ias-@ or ed jool, jewellers monarch of deflection with 2x15ias/15@ or ed jools, 2xbers to compensate the SS dr% lose. But meh... would need much more dex for max block, and would have not 50% dr i think.

Or even Stormlash Ber, and using all the jmod sox for ias, but again seems a very retardedNOTNORMALPERSAZONFEET OPTION TO MEFEET.

SS makes life very easy.
not acceptable?


CB lives dont matter.

Well u could go like this: O_o

Stormlash shael, 3trap/20fcr cham/15ias-@ or ed jool, jewellers monarch of deflection with 2x15ias/15@ or ed jools, 2xbers to compensate the SS dr% lose. But meh... would need much more dex for max block, and would have not 50% dr i think.

Or even Stormlash Ber, and using all the jmod sox for ias, but again seems a very retardedNOTNORMALPERSAZONFEET OPTION TO MEFEET.

SS makes life very easy.


well azure is actually nice :baby:

But andy not much
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Post#34 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
Erokai wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
DuckDuckGo wrote:
why hlord? amu should be 3trap/10fcr


i see whats wrong here, ok

it is basically 102fcr vs maxed speed...

ok lets say like that:

in p8 ds is not that important, so shattering via raven not a hard crime...


ok u got it, feetgratulations.

Anyway u get a lot of corpses to explode with ds with high dmg traps, does not matter much if kicked mobs explode on ice.


oh ty good sir

im not a total noob here, and can use ias calc on somehow decent level happy

i hear what you are talking about


ONEVER WHAIIII WHATTHEFEETz Stormshield is a muzt!11111111111.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.

Or just forget stormlash and use Cmoon cos belive me, statics drop anyway and its a way faster weapon when made into phaseblade ofc roll1 solves a lot of trouble in this matter.


33cb loss?


CB lives dont matter.

Well u could go like this: O_o

Stormlash shael, 3trap/20fcr cham/15ias-@ or ed jool, jewellers monarch of deflection with 2x15ias/15@ or ed jools, 2xbers to compensate the SS dr% lose. But meh... would need much more dex for max block, and would have not 50% dr i think.

Or even Stormlash Ber, and using all the jmod sox for ias, but again seems a very retardedNOTNORMALPERSAZONFEET OPTION TO MEFEET.

SS makes life very easy.
not acceptable?


CB lives dont matter.

Well u could go like this: O_o

Stormlash shael, 3trap/20fcr cham/15ias-@ or ed jool, jewellers monarch of deflection with 2x15ias/15@ or ed jools, 2xbers to compensate the SS dr% lose. But meh... would need much more dex for max block, and would have not 50% dr i think.

Or even Stormlash Ber, and using all the jmod sox for ias, but again seems a very retardedNOTNORMALPERSAZONFEET OPTION TO MEFEET.

SS makes life very easy.


well azure is actually nice :baby:

But andy not much


andy is mini 3/20

but for 5fg...

not every day you can see perf blue circs...

and even if you see em, you will need dozens/hundreds fg's to buy it, lol
its hardcore
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ou dont need 12k traps and i have no idea where you think youre getting 4k more damage without sacrificing something better


also

you can put whatever you want in shako, im saying shako itself is BIS and this is a trap/kick sin, not a pure kicker


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this is traps with kick to bosses (this is not for ubers)

no ones trying to buy a circlet for their pvm assassin

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Post#37 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this is traps with kick to bosses (this is not for ubers)

no ones trying to buy a circlet for their pvm assassin


?

With azure? very easy:

helm 3trap/20fcr
amu 3trap/10fcr
armor: enigma
weapon: Azure shael.
boots: upped gores or 2xupped gobs.
gloves: magefists
belt: arach
rings: bk/bk.

CTA PHASEBLADE/Spirit 35 (102 fcr this side, 12k traps this side)
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Post#38 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenDreamer wrote:
um'd shako
um'd stormshield
dancers
enigma
ber'd azurewrath
20/10 gloves
arach or tgods (depending on how you feel about 0fcr, either way works imo)
raven / soj
maras or sin/fcr ammy (27 fcr is a bp 42 is a bp 65 is a bp [arach+7fcr amulet/arach+swap to cta-spirit to tele/arach+10% amu+swap to cta-spirit to tele]

IMO use arach because a little fcr is a little better than none

5x fhr trap gcs
anni
torch
whatever for scs

what do you get?
90 FHR (86 bp)
73 DR (23 DR while decrepified, 80% reduced duration by fade)
a good trap placement speed
max res (+stacked res via fade)
fairly easy max block with some dex investment
2500-3200 max life (after BO based on cta / whether you did your stat and life quests / whether you have some life on charms) i suspect you can get more than 3200 without much sacrifice at higher clevels
30%cb
+500-1000 magic/cold damage to kicks
sanc aura (knocks back dolls, you're at zero risk of dying to dolls without it however)
a little over 8k damage LS traps (would use 3-4 LS traps and 1-2 DS)
with a gheeds, about 180 MF (can be more or less based on gear / a lot more based on charms)

using traps / DT(kick) primary to bosses

assassin is functionally immortal pvm with among the fastest clear times among all classes (for baal) 2:40-3:15 depending on how dirty throne is / whether baal stands still



our "build" has bad fcr

your "build" has bad traps (like mine by the way), but i have 65fcr swap

my build has maxed speed under fade...

my build has statics



it is not like we need some smart things from someone like you...

this discussion before me, hysteria and pround lion has started 1 year ago...
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Post#39 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

every point into +trap is 5% less life from bo / you lose dr, you lose a lot of res (which all has to be made up in inventory) you lose a lot of flat life and flat mana
you lose 86 fhr, in fact i have no idea where your fhr even is; this is exactly how you die in hc

and i gonna say it again, you do not need 12k traps for pvm

you act like it's trading tank stats for damage but youre really trading tank stats for overkill which is fucking worthless

fcr literally only good for teleport, and you have other options

but let's be absolutely honest

helm 3trap/20fcr
amu 3trap/10fcr

literally nobody is going to pay for those 2 things for a pvm assassin, and the ones that do are gonna end up dying with it because they clearly make shit decisions

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Post#40 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 05:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenDreamer wrote:
every point into +trap is 5% less life from bo / you lose dr, you lose a lot of res (which all has to be made up in inventory) you lose a lot of flat life and flat mana
you lose 86 fhr, in fact i have no idea where your fhr even is; this is exactly how you die in hc

and i gonna say it again, you do not need 12k traps for pvm

you act like it's trading tank stats for damage but youre really trading tank stats for overkill which is fucking worthless

fcr literally only good for teleport, and you have other options

but let's be absolutely honest

helm 3trap/20fcr
amu 3trap/10fcr

literally nobody is going to pay for those 2 things for a pvm assassin, and the ones that do are gonna end up dying with it because they clearly make shit decisions


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