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Post#21 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

use a Lawbringer A5 merc

COa/CoH/2h eth lawbringer



20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Decrepify On Striking--helps u
Level 16-18 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped (varies)---will wreck ANY undead
-50% Target Defense
Adds 150-210 Fire Damage
Adds 130-180 Cold Damage
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
Slain Monsters Rest in Peace
+200-250 Defense vs. Missiles
+10 To Dexterity
75% Extra Gold From Monsters
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Post#22 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WinningBreeds wrote:
DuckDuckGo wrote:
amp + cb + ow.

ow stops their repl.
ga would directly dmg the boss and ignore its defense.
an act2 holy freeze merc with slow wep and or blackhorn helm would slow the boss and summons down. maxed valkyre and decoy could take the heat and be resummoned.

i would:
atma ammu(breaks immunes and makes cb/ow stronger)
faith mb
Guilaume or giant skull(the kb would be nice)
gores
strings
LoH
raven
dual leech ring.

meph and his skellies cannot be leeched, the other can be.

strafe once in a while to kb and amp monsters meanwhile still having namelock on boss, then back to boss.

u can still have ur dragon armor, but you can also use an duress


Or Forti


Also prebuff treachery and use proper charms


One of your pieces of advice. Might work for baal but doesnt work for meph and that requires a complete gear change which im not interested nor is that even interesting. It brings you back to the same meta that cannot face tank and spank meph.

Your 10max 76 ar charm suggestion doesnt work because it leaves u with not enough life.
I tried it with steel vitas too and very good ones...and that drops the dodge and evade too low and meph himself eventually hits you 3 times and u die. Not having enough life, he tends to cast charged bolt and since this is tank and spank you stand through it but while thats coming at you he runs up to you and physically hits you too. Often this puts you too low to recover. The AR you gain from the steel gcs is also really close to the same u gain per point of penetrate so AR charms are useless by comparison in this scenario because you need those skills elsewhere. Raising my max dmg didnt seem to help against meph because while you can output slightly higher dps it still ends up taking the same amount of time to clear the skeletons and theyre the only problem in the first place. The hydras in combination with strafe clear them significantly faster.
3 max increases ur max dmg by 20ish depending on gear so 10 is like what...67? Now pull 5 of those. Ur top end increases 300+ vut your damage with this gear sits at 1.3 to 3kish so ur average is like...2100ish. Adding 300 to the top end only increases ur average damage by like....almost exactly 100 damage. Now factor in chances to miss and its less than that especially the arrows that move to hit meph who u only have a 78 percent chance to hit.

Fire does not miss. 9 hydras put out roughly 100 damage per shot with 0 chance to miss unless the target physically dodges which u also run that risk with regular arrows too thus increasing ur realistic miss chance even more.

So you add about 900 dps on top with the hydras but only 100 with max charms. Thats why life on the charms is more important than your max or AR and why skillers outperform max ars....simply because without that 200 more life pre- cta buffs, the builds continuously failed and without the bonus to those skills and the valk being beefed up a bit more to make sure you could guarantee a lifetap proc on meph himself the build also failed.

And for the record ive seen as many as 16 hydra casts at one time. 7 to 9 seems to be normal though.

I do not doubt ur goldstrike accusation but im going to try it simply because im very stuck.
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Post#23 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuckDuckGo wrote:
use a Lawbringer A5 merc

COa/CoH/2h eth lawbringer



20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Decrepify On Striking--helps u
Level 16-18 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped (varies)---will wreck ANY undead
-50% Target Defense
Adds 150-210 Fire Damage
Adds 130-180 Cold Damage
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
Slain Monsters Rest in Peace
+200-250 Defense vs. Missiles
+10 To Dexterity
75% Extra Gold From Monsters


Musta missed this. Will try tonight. Concerned about not having life tap against the clone but my idea here isnt working anyways. As long as it can tank and spank ill try.
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Post#24 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah that's what I thought
you don't give a shit about any advice, you're just trying to flex
well lemme tell you, failing to do ubers in 500hours isn't something you should be proud of


Also 500 hours pales in comparison to the neat 20 years worth of time different people have spent trying to find a build that can do this only to come back saying its not possible.
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Post#25 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenDreamer wrote:
DuckDuckGo wrote:
use a Lawbringer A5 merc

COa/CoH/2h eth lawbringer



20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Decrepify On Striking--helps u
Level 16-18 Sanctuary Aura When Equipped (varies)---will wreck ANY undead
-50% Target Defense
Adds 150-210 Fire Damage
Adds 130-180 Cold Damage
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
Slain Monsters Rest in Peace
+200-250 Defense vs. Missiles
+10 To Dexterity
75% Extra Gold From Monsters


Musta missed this. Will try tonight. Concerned about not having life tap against the clone but my idea here isnt working anyways. As long as it can tank and spank ill try.


then use azurewrath.
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Post#26 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gfg dude, world's first! everyone else tried. everyone else failed. you succeeded. probably the best d2 achievement of the year.
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Post#27 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummmm would soul drainers work they lower his defense each shot and and and eth would lower his defense by 25% but at half effectiveness to 14.5
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Post#28 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ummmm would soul drainers work they lower his defense each shot and and and eth would lower his defense by 25% but at half effectiveness to 14.5


[img]I did try soul drainers and noticed no chance in outcome.[/img]
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Post#29 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForgottenDreamer wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
ummmm would soul drainers work they lower his defense each shot and and and eth would lower his defense by 25% but at half effectiveness to 14.5


[img]I did try soul drainers and noticed no chance in outcome.[/img]



you have inner sight

Loh has 350% dmg to demons

zzz
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Post#30 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuckDuckGo wrote:
ForgottenDreamer wrote:
WinningBreeds wrote:
ummmm would soul drainers work they lower his defense each shot and and and eth would lower his defense by 25% but at half effectiveness to 14.5


[img]I did try soul drainers and noticed no chance in outcome.[/img]



you have inner sight

Loh has 350% dmg to demons

zzz


I do have inner sight. It's a massive boost to hit rating according to a previous poster. At 31, it's -1700ish defense. I also did mention that in my original kills, I forgot to use this ability entirely, so it's potentially 20 wasted skill points. I haven't had time to remove this and test further.

I also read on a glitch blog somewhere that it is common that some items +%damage to undead and +%damage to demons does not function properly.

Ghoulhide gloves were my go-to to test this in a different variation, with marrowwalk boots for the life tap, but I later found out that NONE of the %dmg mods on those gloves worked properly according to another poster who mentioned it in a bug list. This in mind, I swore off additional %damage gear as part of my tactic.
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Post#31 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it always people making bowzons that refuse listening to facts?
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Post#32 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erokai wrote:
Why is it always people making bowzons that refuse listening to facts?


Your facts might be right on paper, but wrong in play.
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Post#33 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

've done it with non-godly gear a number of times. Just take the minute or two with a Ht Causes to Flee mod and clear the area out of all minions (a Terror charge wand can work too), at some point the boss wiill reach their spawn limit, just like a Barb using Howl.

Keep the Valk/Decoy up at all times (potion pool if you need to), then when you are one-on-one from clearing the area, Strafe the boss down.
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Post#34 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video plz
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Post#35 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuckDuckGo wrote:
Video plz


working on it now actually. trying to get organ sets so i can get the video right.
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Post#36 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erokai wrote:
Why is it always people making bowzons that refuse listening to facts?


This and Phoenixzons. Amazons and smiters are rocket science
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Post#37 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragon armor
passive and magic sks
...

You should listen a bit about what these guys are saying to you.
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Post#38 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dragon armor
passive and magic sks
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You should listen a bit about what these guys are saying to you.


What theyre saying does not work. It never has. This is why theres no existing proof of it working. The skiller changeout hasnt worked and has been tried in every variation for almost 20 years...literally. Everybody always assumes that since you gain more damage and or speed on ur weapon its a superior build but its not. I just proved that.

This is a tank and spank build not a kite and pray build. Show me any other video evidence of a bowzon face tanking meph on bnet and downing it. Just 1. Dont worry ill wait....

This is battlenet not a private server or even a modded single player where ubers are tuned down and or dont spawn skeletons at the same rate as battlenet.
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Post#39 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the achievement!

What exactly did you achieve?
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Post#40 Posted: 10 Apr 2021 03:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 minutes to beat mephisto and run out of potions roll1 there's no point in helping you refine it since you refuse to listen to advices
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