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Post#21 Posted: 08 May 2012 09:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imo just remove the rep. Its useless
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Post#22 Posted: 09 May 2012 04:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Imo just remove the rep. Its useless


That is an other option i did thinked about too.
But then, Which user could new users trust ?
Old members ?
They are not that much posting in S&T.


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Post#23 Posted: 09 May 2012 04:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just like DF forums, unless u get like 30-50 post or 2-4 weeks u should not be able to post in S&T
tht will not only make other forums more active,

but adding just time frame, multi will make an account n come back after a month to scam,
add post ea day thts a lot of wrk for the webmaster which i dont think will hapoen
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Post#24 Posted: 09 May 2012 05:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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just like DF forums, unless u get like 30-50 post or 2-4 weeks u should not be able to post in S&T
tht will not only make other forums more active,

but adding just time frame, multi will make an account n come back after a month to scam,
add post ea day thts a lot of wrk for the webmaster which i dont think will hapoen


Just the coding thing will be a bit annoying.
I'm trying to write the algorythm, but that's above 5 years i didn't wrote any (unless it was bot scripts for friens o/).
If i'm on the right way, will be needed :

- 1 boolean variable for define if you have right to go to group member or stay in "approval members"
- 2 date variables : Join date & todaydate, that will result of the number of days since registred.
- 3 number variables : 1 for days, 1 for posts, 1 with auto-inrement (unless the last one didn't reach the number required, the boolean variable stay on false / 0 value. That means you cannot enter group members.
- 1 looping (For ... Do)
- 3 conditions (If ... Else ...)
- 1 number var will be auto-increment (var = var +1). after each operation.
This request will have to be done each day. You write it once, you run it everyday (that won't be an overcharge of work).
If any of you is able to help or write it, he's welcome happy


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Post#25 Posted: 09 May 2012 07:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't remove rep system ... after everyone will ask up front with older join date ...
i know some 011 who are asking uf with 0 rep .. and who never did a trade, they ask uf to everyone , even to ref or others .. i think they want to scam .
there are some users that do legit trade , and are rewarded by reps .
i don't see you doing many trade in selling trading jo , and you got a nice join date and all .. if you have no rep people will u/f you i think .. but if i have no rep , will people uf me? i dont want to be scammed another time .. 3 times on this forum is enough for me

up to 100posts to be able to rep if you want .. or then , mods receive a notice and must confirm the rep ..


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Post#26 Posted: 09 May 2012 08:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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up to 100posts to be able to rep if you want .. or then , mods receive a notice and must confirm the rep ..


That would give some extra work to mods.
Cause for confirm that they were a real trade, they'll need to check :
2 paypal / moneybooker account (via teamviewer)
They'll need to check d2jsp accounts, or whatever was in sale, they'll have to check if a sale really happened.

In the end that's not a bad idea, but would require some extra efforts from mods.

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Post#27 Posted: 09 May 2012 08:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PoLoLo wrote:
up to 100posts to be able to rep if you want .. or then , mods receive a notice and must confirm the rep ..


That would give some extra work to mods.
Cause for confirm that they were a real trade, they'll need to check :
2 paypal / moneybooker account (via teamviewer)
They'll need to check d2jsp accounts, or whatever was in sale, they'll have to check if a sale really happened.

In the end that's not a bad idea, but would require some extra efforts from mods.
lol ..
confirm is easy
they check the rep if it froms multis
if it froms scammers
if it is a real rep , and not like the rep i received from forums for reporting him ...
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Post#28 Posted: 09 May 2012 02:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes
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Post#29 Posted: 09 May 2012 03:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jo wrote:
Imo just remove the rep. Its useless


That is an other option i did thinked about too.
But then, Which user could new users trust ?
Old members ?
They are not that much posting in S&T.


Jo wrote:
Imo just remove the rep. Its useless


useless for people who don't ever use the selling and trading section for real money trades or fg/account trades. the rep system is d3jsps best feature, it just needs some innovation.

i have never been scammed on d3jsp n i sold a lot of fg or accounts vs money.
however i've been scammed on d2jsp 2 times and i think it's because people wave that damn join date around and it's some un written chain of command.

don't just read someones reps and then trade n expect to be safe... look at who gave them, are they active? when was there last click, pm them etc.

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Post#30 Posted: 09 May 2012 04:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why any of you base who goes first off of join date, rep, and posts is beyond me.

Also, I don't see the rep system ever being removed, though something needs to be added to it.
Maybe we should add a required thread link to them? As in you can't rep someone unless you have a legit link to a trade thread.

This would help us mods pick out fake reps and fake threads.

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Post#31 Posted: 09 May 2012 04:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree
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Post#32 Posted: 09 May 2012 04:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what if the thread is fake itself :/
How can you prove is it or not ?


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Post#33 Posted: 09 May 2012 04:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And what if the thread is fake himself :/
How can you prove is it or not ?


There is always a chance they can pull it off;
but usually the people who are smart enough to rep themselves are usually the ones "smart" enough to fail at hiding their own IP's.

Basically, it's better than nothing, and would definitely help us at least a couple times.

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Post#34 Posted: 09 May 2012 04:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you are right.
Better to do a bit of changes, than nothing.

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Post#35 Posted: 10 May 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hej .. stupid question ... but why don't you ban multis of scammers ? they cant reps anymore if they are banned ...
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Post#36 Posted: 10 May 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hej .. stupid question ... but why don't you ban multis of scammers ? they cant reps anymore if they are banned ...


We do if we see it, usually.

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Post#37 Posted: 10 May 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hej .. stupid question ... but why don't you ban multis of scammers ? they cant reps anymore if they are banned ...


We do if we see it, usually.

http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19599
all his reps are his multis ( all locked / scammers and he just scammed .. and same date the reps have been given )
http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19532
same ..

and same for forums multis ...
http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19601


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Post#38 Posted: 10 May 2012 05:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tylr wrote:
PoLoLo wrote:
hej .. stupid question ... but why don't you ban multis of scammers ? they cant reps anymore if they are banned ...


We do if we see it, usually.

http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19599
all his reps are his multis ( all locked / scammers and he just scammed .. and same date the reps have been given )
http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19532
same ..

and same for forums multis ...
http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19601


This is too bad :/
Well if any of you still have any kinds of ideas, just post them, in case they get some "votes" i could modify my 1st post and add them (with the credit ofc)

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Post#39 Posted: 10 May 2012 05:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PoLoLo wrote:
Tylr wrote:
PoLoLo wrote:
hej .. stupid question ... but why don't you ban multis of scammers ? they cant reps anymore if they are banned ...


We do if we see it, usually.

http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19599
all his reps are his multis ( all locked / scammers and he just scammed .. and same date the reps have been given )
http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19532
same ..

and same for forums multis ...
http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19601


Thanks!

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Post#40 Posted: 10 May 2012 08:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why any of you base who goes first off of join date, rep, and posts is beyond me.

Also, I don't see the rep system ever being removed, though something needs to be added to it.
Maybe we should add a required thread link to them? As in you can't rep someone unless you have a legit link to a trade thread.

This would help us mods pick out fake reps and fake threads.


this is a really good idea tylr!

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