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BackFire
Group: Members Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Posts: 35 Gold: Locked
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#1 Posted: 26 Mar 2012 06:41 am Post subject: How to Avoid Chargebacks on Paypal |
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This is a simple and short guide on avoiding chargebacks on paypal.
Paypal Misconceptions:
Lately people have been using the open/close dispute method. That method does not work if you don't own a business account. Most of us don't have a business account and just have personal account. For full 100% scam proof method follow my steps.
What is required:
Teamviewer, Recording Software (Fraps, Hypercam, Camtasia, etc), and some Common Sense.
Trading Steps:
1. Download Teamviewer at www.teamviewer.com and one of the various recording softwares mentioned above.
2. Have your buyer use Teamviewer, tell them to download it. If they refuse, do not trade with them, they obviously have something to hide and most likely a scammer. (This website supports the use of Teamviewer, read through all the stickies)
3. Make sure they are verified users.
4. Tell the buyer to set up a meeting so you can see their computer screen. (Won't allow you to control their computer in a meeting)
5. Make them send you money while your watching and recording their screen.
6. Have them write on a note stating this "I received my non-tangible online item."
7. Take Screenshots of pms, chat log, and gold log.
Keep All Your Evidence:
The video and the screenshots are 100% proof.
If they try to dispute that they never received item, you can point out the note they wrote stating that they have received the item.
If they try to dispute as unauthorized transaction, you have the video record of them logging on paypal and sending you money.
As long as you tell paypal that you have all the evidence and you upload them, they will take ur side.
My experience:
Two different people have tried to dispute as unauthorized claim. I told paypal I have all the evidence and both times paypal took my side and I was able to keep my money. As long as you fight the dispute, Paypal will listen and give a fair judgement. Most people who are willing to go through Teamviewer are legit buyers who just want to buy fg and not scam.
If you have any questions, pm me.
Mods, If you can sticky this, it would be helpful to a lot of people who's been getting scammed. Or better yet, post up your own version and make it better.
P.S. I know I'm locked. I'm currently working on it to get this problem solved. |
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Monkey D. Luffy
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#2 Posted: 26 Mar 2012 09:18 am Post subject: |
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This sounds like a lot of trouble to teamviewer + record
I have trouble enough just using fraps alone |
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BackFire
Group: Members Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Posts: 35 Gold: Locked
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#3 Posted: 26 Mar 2012 04:52 pm Post subject: |
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Monkey D. Luffy wrote: | This sounds like a lot of trouble to teamviewer + record
I have trouble enough just using fraps alone |
if u have trouble using a simple recording software, either ur lazy or have downs
literally takes few mins to download and install
few more mins to learn how to use, its self explanatory when you load those programs
but, its all up to u
if u rather not go through with this, enjoy getting chargedback~ |
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Ref
Group: Scammer Joined: 25 Dec 2011 Posts: 4483 Gold: Locked
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#4 Posted: 26 Mar 2012 04:57 pm Post subject: |
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don't trade with new users don't go 1st to a per with less rep then u
gg |
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NothingButaPeanut
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#5 Posted: 26 Mar 2012 05:58 pm Post subject: |
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if the person claims he got keylogged and it was an unauthorized transaction. How does your recording of his monitor serve as definite and ultimate proof?
If you meant verified paypal that actually increases the risk, since the person must have a credit card linked to it. He can then chargeback both on paypal and through his bank^^ |
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BackFire
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#6 Posted: 27 Mar 2012 02:18 am Post subject: |
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NothingButaPeanut wrote: | if the person claims he got keylogged and it was an unauthorized transaction. How does your recording of his monitor serve as definite and ultimate proof?
If you meant verified paypal that actually increases the risk, since the person must have a credit card linked to it. He can then chargeback both on paypal and through his bank^^ |
If paypal ends up believing a made up story that the buyer got keylogged, paypal will reimburse the seller as well since the seller can provide proof of sending the item. But this scenario is very unlikely.
Also, are you saying you rather trade unverified person than verified? Makes no sense. For people in the US, only way to get verified is through linking your paypal with your bank account. Of course you can send money by using credit card, but if the person charge back through credit card, and paypal took on the seller's side, paypal will take funds out from their bank to offset the negative balance due to credit card chargeback.
If all else fails, paypal will reimburse you anyways, so you keep your money in the end. It's not the seller's responsibility to worry about buyer's getting keylogged. Paypal has seller protection as well as buyer protection. |
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HeJHeJ
Group: Banned Joined: 27 Mar 2012 Posts: 34 Gold: Locked
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#7 Posted: 27 Mar 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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