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Should Scammer tagged users be perma banned from webiste and account closed and non accessable
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Post#1 Posted: 28 Jan 2013 01:52 am    Post subject: Scammer tagged users perma ip ban/account unuseable Reply with quote

Im getting tired of the trade fourm full of scammer tags. these people should not be aloud to post nor pm intill they payback scam/get scammer tagged removed.

Anyone else up for this idea?
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Post#2 Posted: 28 Jan 2013 01:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think an IP bann brings nothing.
The only right reaction would be a MAC adress bann.

The IP i can change. The MAC is everytime the same......

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Post#3 Posted: 28 Jan 2013 05:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think an IP bann brings nothing.
The only right reaction would be a MAC adress bann.

The IP i can change. The MAC is everytime the same......


this too than briggrin


this scammer shit is getting old and needs to be stopped, 50% of the users on this site are scammers or they charge back.

my paypal is negative over 900 usd because of this site and im pretty sure paypal is about to start coming after me for that money lol.
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Post#4 Posted: 28 Jan 2013 05:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voted YES ofc!

I so much hate scammers! I got scammed for a total of 490$ on this site, we really need to find a way to ban theses scammers/impersonator user on this site!

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Post#5 Posted: 28 Jan 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

or you learn to trade safer and with a mediator, easy pheasy. said numerous of times before; remove scammers rights and they will only multiply, just like d2jsp. See a scammer, dont trade with him/her and if you absolutely want then make the person send first.
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Post#6 Posted: 29 Jan 2013 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
or you learn to trade safer and with a mediator, easy pheasy. said numerous of times before; remove scammers rights and they will only multiply, just like d2jsp. See a scammer, dont trade with him/her and if you absolutely want then make the person send first.


the scammer can charge back his money...

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Post#7 Posted: 29 Jan 2013 09:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol momo u got owned $490? how stupid can u be i been here since 09 only been scammed around 120 and one was because i trusted the user "moofy" here but since he's good buddies with a mod here nothing happened
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Post#8 Posted: 30 Jan 2013 09:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lol momo u got owned $490? how stupid can u be i been here since 09 only been scammed around 120 and one was because i trusted the user "moofy" here but since he's good buddies with a mod here nothing happened


When ur new, u have to give first... When i joined lot of scammers was trying to scam, i also lost some when i trusted a friend...

Now i dont give first anymore so i dont got scammed anymore! cool

edit: I lost 490$ worth of d3 igg, didnt lost any $$ at all...


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Post#9 Posted: 30 Jan 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, d3jsp is and WILL ALWAYS be a lastpoint for ex d2jsp:ers that was/is scammers that wants to do illegal djsp trades. This is the way it has always been, and will be. There will ALWAYS be scammers on this site beacuse of the lack of security (IP changes, proxys, VPN:s), just see for yourself the % of people that are locked/scammertagged/banned of the total users registered on this site.

IT WILL NOT HELP that you remove scammer/locked tagged users their privileges, as I have said in numerous of threads with this theme: this will only trigger more people to make more multiple accounts. Give them a chance to repay and LET THE people that trade with them seek up their history for themselves, I am sick and tired of all these threads about ''how to trade safe'' etcetera. THIS SITE is infested with d2jsp rejects - this is facts and can only be accepted. Eventually someone is going to be scammed when it comes to In Real Life money. The only thing d3jsp can do about it is to hire the right people that DONT pay $$ for their tag but earn it through years of showing trust that will help out with the scammers. This will eventually never happen because the owner himself and the staff is worn out of scammers already. The lack of acticity makes the staff desperate for people that can help out. This is why for example $hak got his mod tag, and probably others aswell, I cant name all of them. All in all, this will NEVER change unless a better trading system is invented. I know its easy to point fingers but I have seen my fair share in 3 years here.
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Post#10 Posted: 30 Jan 2013 05:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us be realistic.

1.) Not to be rude, but this site isn't as active as it appears to once have been. You need all the users you can get. You should be thankful the ones who are scammer tagged (some anyways), don't multi and continue to cause destruction.

2.) As far as trading\market goes. If you use a med, you wouldn't get scammed. Pretty simple. Alternatively, use smart trading tactics and don't trade a scammer period? No one forces you to, and typically if something is too good to be true, it usually is.

Finally, a perm ban is a little too harsh imo, a ban from the market is reasonable until you pay back a user, but why ban people who contribute activity and could just change their IP and multi anyways?

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Post#11 Posted: 06 Feb 2013 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted no, someone as a buyer should just not trade with a scammer tag.

The problem in trading real money is the chance of getting the money reneged. I would not do paypal and use a safer way.
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Post#12 Posted: 06 Feb 2013 08:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but if You ban him, he will never payback (at least will have no chance). Better do somethink like this --> http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=105587

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Post#13 Posted: 09 Feb 2013 09:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they won't pay back their scams and they will make a new account.
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Post#14 Posted: 11 Feb 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They won't repay. They'll just continue making multi's to scam.

Welcome to D3JSP. The Staff works hard enough as is to try and limit this from happening.

I'm usually banning 3-4 users daily because of multi's.
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Post#15 Posted: 11 Feb 2013 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cory wrote:
They won't repay. They'll just continue making multi's to scam.

Welcome to D3JSP. The Staff works hard enough as is to try and limit this from happening.

I'm usually banning 3-4 users daily because of multi's.


Keep up the good work Cory! Make this place 100% safe to trade!

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Post#16 Posted: 07 Mar 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
First of all, d3jsp is and WILL ALWAYS be a lastpoint for ex d2jsp:ers that was/is scammers that wants to do illegal djsp trades. This is the way it has always been, and will be. There will ALWAYS be scammers on this site beacuse of the lack of security (IP changes, proxys, VPN:s), just see for yourself the % of people that are locked/scammertagged/banned of the total users registered on this site.

IT WILL NOT HELP that you remove scammer/locked tagged users their privileges, as I have said in numerous of threads with this theme: this will only trigger more people to make more multiple accounts. Give them a chance to repay and LET THE people that trade with them seek up their history for themselves, I am sick and tired of all these threads about ''how to trade safe'' etcetera. THIS SITE is infested with d2jsp rejects - this is facts and can only be accepted. Eventually someone is going to be scammed when it comes to In Real Life money. The only thing d3jsp can do about it is to hire the right people that DONT pay $$ for their tag but earn it through years of showing trust that will help out with the scammers. This will eventually never happen because the owner himself and the staff is worn out of scammers already. The lack of acticity makes the staff desperate for people that can help out. This is why for example $hak got his mod tag, and probably others aswell, I cant name all of them. All in all, this will NEVER change unless a better trading system is invented. I know its easy to point fingers but I have seen my fair share in 3 years here.


Your the reason d3jsp is loosing users.


Ban both Ip and Mac if any email used from paypal ban that for example filter message if an email that was banned marked as scammed was typed via mail will auto ban or suspend the account and a mod will be notified i dont know use your ideas fix this crap.


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Post#17 Posted: 08 Mar 2013 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: Scammer tagged users perma ip ban/account unuseable Reply with quote

Girx wrote:
Im getting tired of the trade fourm full of scammer tags. these people should not be aloud to post nor pm intill they payback scam/get scammer tagged removed.

Anyone else up for this idea?

Although impossible, it does sound like a good idea smile

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Post#18 Posted: 08 Apr 2013 09:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 100% for this, they should just be banned off the site entirely. Scammers will always be scammers, they won't repay back especially if you're dealing with d2jsp fg vs real cash.
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Post#19 Posted: 08 Apr 2013 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm 100% for this, they should just be banned off the site entirely. Scammers will always be scammers, they won't repay back especially if you're dealing with d2jsp fg vs real cash.


That's untrue, i've repaid a scam i committed 2-3 years ago or so... people do change.
But i would have to disagree with this.

If the user is scammer tagged he should only have access to the s/a section if he decides to repay, no other sections... user shouldn't even be able to look in the trading section.

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Post#20 Posted: 09 Apr 2013 04:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changing ip is very easy, most of the users who are scammers change their ip and post from hundreds of different ip's from another place anyhow.
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